Used regular auto soap like ONR and got good results!

Honestly, there is only so much that can be done. You guys make it sound like no one in the world ever used a spray cleaner on a dirty surface and wiped it off (Windex, Pledge, 409), and I'm pretty sure the world didn't stop spinning. The OP started this adventure in another thread, he was given the standard Autopia advice, and he decided to go another way. It seems like he got the results he was looking for, and that's ok by me. I don't know why it can't be ok by you guys. Unless this is going to turn into one of these threads where a college kid doing washes for his religious community is a threat to the reputation of you full-time professional detailers.
 
its been said before, if it works for you why change?



my dad always said "if it aint broke son, dont fix it!" I say carry on Hydroman, as long as you are using proper techniques during the wash, I say you should be ok :)
 
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Sorry, but I just don't see how this could work for a lot of people. I think we're leaving out a few details here.



Exactly how ONR works has been discussed over and over again on these forums so I won't repeat it. But basically ONR 'encapsulates' dirt and suspends it in a solution until it can be toweled off. That suspension keeps teh dirt from rubbing against the paint.



I don't know of any regular wash soaps that make the same claim. As far as I know, they are cleaners and lubricants, nothing more. So, I would say that using this method with regular soap is probably going to lead to more wash-induced marring than a regular wash, or ONR wash would.



Also, I'm having a hard time visualizing regular car soap just being mopped off of the paint without rinsing. What kind of towels did you use? how many did you go through?



Also, how fresh was the LSP on this particular car, and what LSP was it? I can see how a fresh LSP might help in the drying process and cut down on soapy film build-up. But eventually it will wear and it will become more difficult to get proper results.
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I have been using QEW for about 6 years now. I still have several gallons left. A few years ago I wondered how regular car wash soap would do if I used it like QEW and did not rinse. I used Meguiars Gold Class. Worked perfectly. No smearing, no slimy mess left behind, cleaned well, and most importantly no marring. I check for marring obsessively and use several different lighting sources. Direct sunlight with sunglasses on is IMO the bets way to see everything. I can tell you there was no marring.



I still use QEW on the paint since I need to use it up but I now use regular car soap instead of QEW in the Jambs, engine, wheels and wells. I have been doing this for 3 years now and wonder why I didn't try it sooner. I don't think I will be replacing my QEW with another rinseless wash since regular car wash soap works so well for me.



I know many will read this and think it's insane to use regular car wash soap in the same way as a rinseless wash but I remember back in the days when Scott Wax first started mentioning QEW on here and everybody thought it was insane to wash a car with out a hose. They couldn't believe it could be done with out marring. I was a nervous wreck first time I tried it on my swirl free car. Of course now everybody uses rinseless washes. So don't knock something until you try it you might be surprised how well it works..
 
Not sure you'd be saving any money using car wash soap instead of ONR, especially by the gallon. $35 for 128 washes (based on 1 oz per 2 gallons of water for a wash) is a pretty good deal. Not to mention the benefits of added gloss and slickness you get from ONR.



I am not sure what the chemical differences are between a conventional car wash soap vs ONR or QEW that might affect how using a car wash soap as a rinseless wash over the long term. :nixweiss
 
I've used regular car wash the ONR way. Worked fine for me when I mixed up 64oz in a pump up sprayer. I have loads of regular car wash laying around. I use ONR most of the time.
 
liverbomb88 said:
I wonder if your customer noticed suds when driving in the first rain after your detail.
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There was no suds after a rain when I used regular car wash instead of QEW. There was no noticeable difference. I fully expected there to be a slimy residue left behind but there wasn't.



It's no big deal for you guys to try it on a panel and compare for yourself. What harm could come from it?
 
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