WuNgUn
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Which Zaino products are for sealing/waxing? I see polishes on their site, but I have polishes already. Which Zaino product would I buy to seal/protect?
Understanding Zaino
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cwcad
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Zaino has two sealants. They are Z5Pro and Z2Pro. Z5Pro has some hiding capabilities. Z2Pro is a strait sealant
Zaino also has Z8, which is a spray sealant, to use to maintain the finish. It is a QD on steroids. It adds protection as well as shine but not much in the cleaning properties catagory.
Zaino also has Z8, which is a spray sealant, to use to maintain the finish. It is a QD on steroids. It adds protection as well as shine but not much in the cleaning properties catagory.
You can find contact info on the Zaino site.WuNgUn said:
Quote from the Zaino Store Customer Service:
"Contacting us...
For contact information, please visit our Contact Us page. For your convenience, a link is located on the bottom of every page."
Just ask them. They should be able to tell you what you need.
Charles
wannafbody
wannafbody
Zaino Store is the website.
ZFX-abrasive polish for swirl remover
Z6-QD
Z5pro-sealant
Z2pro-sealant
Z8-spray sealant
ZFX-catalyst-cure accelerator and strengthens bonding
I preferr Z5pro/Z8 combo on mettallics and Z2pro for solids
ZFX-abrasive polish for swirl remover
Z6-QD
Z5pro-sealant
Z2pro-sealant
Z8-spray sealant
ZFX-catalyst-cure accelerator and strengthens bonding
I preferr Z5pro/Z8 combo on mettallics and Z2pro for solids
joe.p
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I myself have Zaino other then purchasing AJ these two will be the last of the items in my arsenal due to th fact i just have to many and need to use what i have to be able to make my own honest evaluation based soley on a product alone..wannafbody said:
WuNgUn
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Thanks for the info guys...
I've looked at the above link, and the Zaino Canada site, and they both refer to the 5 and 2 as polishes and swirl removers. There is no mention whatsoever about sealing abilities...
I'm not calling you guys liars or anything, but I trying to understand why a high-end product like Zaino seems to target the general public with their generalization of their product line by calling them 'polishes'?
Okay, Z5 has polishing and sealing abilities, but why not call Z2 a sealant, or at least a 'wax'?
I've looked at the above link, and the Zaino Canada site, and they both refer to the 5 and 2 as polishes and swirl removers. There is no mention whatsoever about sealing abilities...
I'm not calling you guys liars or anything, but I trying to understand why a high-end product like Zaino seems to target the general public with their generalization of their product line by calling them 'polishes'?
Okay, Z5 has polishing and sealing abilities, but why not call Z2 a sealant, or at least a 'wax'?
budman3
Detail time!
Because people don't know about sealants. Most people refer to detailing products as polishes and waxes. Zaino decided to name thier products as polishes so they can interest more of the general public. It's just a marketing scheme.
I'm no Zaino user but heres a part of the description for Z5-pro from their site:
"Z-5 PRO delivers:
• Unbelievable levels of shine, gloss, depth, clarity, and reflectivity
• Enhanced swirl-hiding capabilities
• Unbeatable durability - lock in that show car shine for months
• Improved ease of use - wipe on, wipe off
• No dust, no staining, no streaking
• Greater value"
Also I don't see the words "swirl removers" anywhere with Z2 or Z5. I see "filler" and "filling ability" a lot... not my cup of tea. I'd rather get the car as swirl free as safely possible and use a pure sealant/wax to top it off. Hiding swirls isn't something I want to do.
As for the specific reasoning why Zaino does what they do... who knows? I think they are the only ones with those kinds of answers.
I'm no Zaino user but heres a part of the description for Z5-pro from their site:
"Z-5 PRO delivers:
• Unbelievable levels of shine, gloss, depth, clarity, and reflectivity
• Enhanced swirl-hiding capabilities
• Unbeatable durability - lock in that show car shine for months
• Improved ease of use - wipe on, wipe off
• No dust, no staining, no streaking
• Greater value"
Also I don't see the words "swirl removers" anywhere with Z2 or Z5. I see "filler" and "filling ability" a lot... not my cup of tea. I'd rather get the car as swirl free as safely possible and use a pure sealant/wax to top it off. Hiding swirls isn't something I want to do.
As for the specific reasoning why Zaino does what they do... who knows? I think they are the only ones with those kinds of answers.
imp-gmblack3
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Z06-Goose said:I have to agree on the marketing scheme part.
The zaino bashing begins.
wannafbody
wannafbody
budman3 said:
Z5pro has filling ability but doesn't contain fillers
It has a polymer that permanently fills SMALL paint imperfections-something every car has. The term sealant isn't commonly used at the consumer level. It's somewhat similar to Zymol calling their wax a glaze:yay
jaybs02
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I don't see any bashinggmblack3 said:
Merely 1 member agreeing with another.
No one made any comments about the quality of the product.
"J"
budman3
Detail time!
wannafbody said:Z5pro has filling ability but doesn't contain fillers
Still from Zaino's web site:
"Thanks to its advanced, non-abrasive, micro-filler polymer technology, Z-5 PRO fills and hides minor surface imperfections even better than before "
If it doesn't contain fillers, as you say, then what exactly are the differences between "micro-filler polymer technology" and traditional fillers?
In my book a filler is a product that fills in swirls to make a vehicle look like it has less swirls. Also, by the word permanent, you mean that the swirls are filled in forever?
Why don't people use Z-3?? Is that just another of the 3 sealants Zaino puts out?
GearHead_1
Long Time Member
From the look of this post and the other post that Goose linked to it appears to be border line member bashing. If there are issues here that the rest of us are not aware of I would suggest you guys settle it with a PM.gmblack3 said:
cwcad
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budman3 said:
I will attempt to answer the last question first, Budman. To the best of my knowledge Z3 is for single stage paints.
I do not know the chemical makeup of any of these products but I do know that Z5Pro layered three times would cover up and seal the paint of Nathansdad micro marring that was discussed (and you responded to his plea for help. Quite eloquently I mite add)earlier today on this forum.
The difference between other filler products and Z5Pro is that Z5Pro fillers do not wash off the first time that you wash the vehicle. They do come back on my black truck. Yet, with proper detailing techniques the product lasts. The more you layer the more it covers. I like it because it dries hard and stays that way a long time.
As far as the web site saying that it fills better than before ......Well, it has been my limited experience with the newer version(Z5Pro) that this is most definitely so. I cannot continue to take my clear coat off with multiple abrassive polishing sessions as I have done in the past(OK call it lazy).
Take it for what it is worth, Budman3.
budman3
Detail time!
Thank you for the information. There aren't too many threads around that talk about the Zaino products in detail other than the 'they are great' 'awesome durability' 'look what Zaino did to my car" threads. It's good to actually learn about the product outside of the marketing and hype.
So, if I interpreted this correctly, the Z5 fills into the swirl marks making them appear that they are gone. The sunlight doesn't catch on the swirls like they did before, I presume. This reminds me of polishing with a PC. The swirls most of the time aren't completely removed rather the edges are rounded down so the sun doesn't catch on the sharp edges. So the sealant, Z5, in this case would create that effect?? I think???
What types of swirls are able to be hidden with such a product / products? Typical light marring from polishes? A few random wash induced swirls? A lot of swirls?? Has anyone tried and see how much Z5 actually fills?
So, if I interpreted this correctly, the Z5 fills into the swirl marks making them appear that they are gone. The sunlight doesn't catch on the swirls like they did before, I presume. This reminds me of polishing with a PC. The swirls most of the time aren't completely removed rather the edges are rounded down so the sun doesn't catch on the sharp edges. So the sealant, Z5, in this case would create that effect?? I think???
What types of swirls are able to be hidden with such a product / products? Typical light marring from polishes? A few random wash induced swirls? A lot of swirls?? Has anyone tried and see how much Z5 actually fills?
In my own experience it doesn't fill swirls in a way that people think. It does it ever so slightly that it's hard to tell if it really did the job or not, but at the same time I don't think is abrasive enough to round-off edges to give you the allusion the swirls are gone. Heck, I've used my PC with mild abrasives, and still have to work the spot hard to make it half-way decent, and this was on a Grand-Am!
-Goose
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cwcad
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I think it is true that it fills slightly. Kind of hard to notice. That is why I put three layers on it. One must paint correct to take swirls on. It is the micro marring that I count on Z5Pro to cover up.
wannafbody
wannafbody
cwcad said:
My experience is that Z5pro will fill micromarring but not deep defects. I used some polish by hand and it left some micromarring and the Z5pro side filled them and they weren't visible but on the other side where I used a different product it was visible. If you really want to learn about what makes Zaino so good give Sal a call-he'd be glad to talk to you.