undercoating wheelwells

derek37

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Do any of you guys use a spray undercoating on your customers wheel wells? Would it be alright to use on the plastic wheelwells?

AND if you folks do this, what would be a fair price to charge? I would just like to include it in one of my exterior packages.

Thanks for any help. I LOVE THIS SITE!!!!!!!!!

I did do a search but couldn't find what I was looking for:nixweiss
 

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Spray on new undercoating only to replace damaged existing undercoating, otherwise, I feel the proper way to treat wheel wells is to thoroughly clean them then dress then with something like the now discontinued Meg's Engine Kote for extended durability. Undercoating can be very messy IMO and I dont know how well it would stick to the existing plastic panels in the wheel wells. Paint may actually be a better option in a situation like that
 
does the engine kote leave a nice black look or just a clean natural look? I'm looking for the black look.
 
It looked pretty rich and black to me. I was very surprised how rich it looked even on my 15 year old Caddy wheel wells :up
 
LangMan37 said:
does the engine kote leave a nice black look or just a clean natural look? I'm looking for the black look.



Can't go past Malco Ashphalt undercoating, Omikron RD Black Wheel well paint or Magnum Top Gear Latex based Super Black paint

You can then give them a layer of clear coat paint if you wanted to.
 
EK wasnt very "black" to me, it took more of the naturaly color of the wheelwell. For black wheelwells I use AA, even tho the protectoin is less and the dust attration greater
 
When detailing 4WD or older more neglected vehicles I like to spray the wheel wells with a product I purchase locally in Australia.



Its a solvent based tyre black that I used in a spray bottle after I have completly scrubbed the wheel wells.



I do this before any paint work as any overspray just polishes off.



****Important do not do this when a vehicle is parked in a driveway of a client as it will stain.





The results are amasing. I also spary it on the undercarage, diff and chasis when working on 4wd.





On the right job can make a huge difference and well worth considering. Charge whatever you thing the clinent can absorb, or add it in as an extra to really impress a good customer. May only take a couple of minutes per wheel.
 
Thanks for the replies. What I do now is scrub 'em clean and coat them with AA. It's ok but I thought either painting them or undercoating would give a better look. I was hoping to stay away from the paint though.\

So has anyone regularly used undercoating on customers wheelwells?

I should mention that I picked up a case of aerosal Cyclo undercoating for $20 and now I need to find something to do with it. Hmm, wheelwells maybe....

It goes on nice and stays where you spray. I was just wondering, being that it would only take a few minutes to apply, would/are customers receptive to this? I wouldn't even make it a big sales pitch I would just inform them that it's part of the package. ANd Maybe point it out to them when I was finished.
 
Mizzuri said:
When detailing 4WD or older more neglected vehicles I like to spray the wheel wells with a product I purchase locally in Australia.



Its a solvent based tyre black that I used in a spray bottle after I have completly scrubbed the wheel wells.



I do this before any paint work as any overspray just polishes off.



****Important do not do this when a vehicle is parked in a driveway of a client as it will stain.





The results are amasing. I also spary it on the undercarage, diff and chasis when working on 4wd.





On the right job can make a huge difference and well worth considering. Charge whatever you thing the clinent can absorb, or add it in as an extra to really impress a good customer. May only take a couple of minutes per wheel.





That sounds like the stuff I posted above or something similar. It works a treat that's for sure. I'm amazed that almost all detailers don't do it. Tyre shine is one thing but wheel arch paint is another.



What is the brand?
 
LangMan37 said:
Do any of you guys use a spray undercoating on your customers wheel wells? Would it be alright to use on the plastic wheelwells?

AND if you folks do this, what would be a fair price to charge? I would just like to include it in one of my exterior packages.

Thanks for any help. I LOVE THIS SITE!!!!!!!!!

I did do a search but couldn't find what I was looking for:nixweiss



Griots makes a kick *** undercarriage spray. Many people love it and thinks it is a godsent!
 
I've used two different types of undercoating on my wheel wells to repair chipped spots (white paint showing through from rock impacts).

The first was an asphalt based undercoating. I stay completely away from this type now. It is very brownish black color when dried, takes forever to completely dry, and smells like fresh asphalt until thoroughly dry (can be days). It also sprays really "chunky" or splotchy. The lasting smell would probably make it less than ideal for a customer's car.

The second is a rubberized undercoating/sound deadener. The stuff I used was in a blue can with white lettering (from WalMart, AutoZone, etc). It sprays much finer (but still leaving a texture), and doesn't have a lingering odor. It is a matte black, and dries relatively quick (depending on coat thickness). It is extremely durable, too. And it really looks OEM applied. Also great for the parts of the undercarriage that are visible if they were previously undercoated.

Downfall to doing this is it is time consuming. Figure in cleaning the surface, taping surrounding areas, and dry time. I wouldn't do it on a windy day just because of overspray, either. I can't remember how long it took me to do my four wheelwells, but it wasn't a quickie type thing (I had removed wheels to do it once).

But once finished, I think it looks much better than other options because of the totally fresh OEM look. And it is more durable than protectants that will wash/wear off, and paint that will chip. If you want more of a sheen, you can always spray a protectant on it after it's dry, as it is made of rubber.



Just some thoughts.



Dave
 
OK thanks Mizz, I'll try and locate it and see how it compares to the Omikron. 4WD's look wicked when the wells, diff and chassis are painted. From now on I will be driving the cars over a 5 metre wide painter's mate plastic covering so to prevent the paint from staining concrete or bitumen/asphalt. Even my vehicle's exhaust system gets a paint. The inside of the chrome tip and stainless steel tailpipe get a going over to prevent that disgusting orange rust look.
 
EngineKote is the bomb!!! Just received my gallon jug and gives me exactly what I was looking for. Very cool:up :up
 
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