Unbelievable information!

CharlesW

The Rainmaker
Some excerpts from:
The Des Moines Register
The Newspaper Iowa Depends Upon
(Their quote, not mine. I call it the Des Moines Inquirer.)

"Automatic car washes have grown tremendously because educated people know that it takes 100 gallons of water to wash it in the driveway and 16 gallons at the car wash," says Hill of the Heartland Car Wash Association, the Des Moines-based trade association for car wash owners in eight Midwest states.

For $5 you can get a regular wash and rinse to get rid of the grime. But add $2 and a light coat of wax will be applied for protection. For $3 more, you can get even better wax called carnauba that lasts longer and protects your paint job, says manager Stephanie Miers.

Silicone waxes last longer than a cheaper, petroleum-based wax.

But hold on.

"As far as I'm concerned, you might as well pour a gallon of milk over your car. The new paint and clear coats on cars now don't even need to be waxed," said Kent xxxxxxx, owner of xxxxxxx Auto Body West in Des Moines.

He suggests buying a mild rubbing compound made for cars at any auto parts or discount store and using that in place of wax, simply for cleaning off difficult dirt and spots.
The complete article is here.

So all you dummies that are wasting that 100 gallons of water better stop.
This whole washing and waxing thing can be done soooo much easier and for only a few bucks. And using silicone waxes is obviously the way to go.
That is if you absolutely feel you have to wax your car since some rubbing compound is all you really need.
The body shop that suggests the rubbing compound actually is considered a good one. (Or at least is by some people.:)) They do a lot of Mercedes, Audi, and BMW work. Scary!
Then we Iowans wonder why the rest of the country thinks we are a bunch of Country Bumpkins. It's because we are.:D

Charles
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Wow...100 gallons for a home car wash....shhheeeeeeeesh.

I always figure swirl-o-matics harm more than they clean.
And silicone.....excellent for a body-shop environment... :horse:
 
100 gallons for a home car wash? Yeah right! Maybe if I left the hose on full blast the whole time with no sprayer on the end.
 
Thats probably it. I love it how people comapare things.

Just like in a Sandwich shop here locally, they compare their 6 inch turkey and cheese sandwich, no drink or side, to a whole supersized meal at McDonalds..

I love how they say beads help in reducing waterspots. I thought beading is what causes the spots, since there is nowhere for the water to go except evaporate and leave behind whatever minerals it had.

But hey, They're experts.

I love thier use of shop rags for vehicle detailing.
 
Maybe that's what the shop wants, a bunch of people going crazy w/compound so they can tell people they need new paint jobs.
RTexasF it's pretty cool to see someone else from the Valley posting on here. I'm from Weslaco.
 
Well I just read the whole article now and I would like to say that the fact checker for this article should be fired immediately because there are certainly multiple false facts in there.

I would also like to discuss the following quote:
"As far as I'm concerned, you might as well pour a gallon of milk over your car. The new paint and clear coats on cars now don't even need to be waxed," said Kent Acheson, owner of Acheson Auto Body West in Des Moines.

He suggests buying a mild rubbing compound made for cars at any auto parts or discount store and using that in place of wax, simply for cleaning off difficult dirt and spots.
Someone maybe last month brought up a quote in a thread on that other detailing website. This quote was almost word-for-word the same as this one and was uttered by David B. the mayor of said website. I think we can all agree that David B. is knowledgeable when it comes to detailing and is not a mentally challenged person. So why would he say this?

I present to you that the quote is easily misinterpreted. According to the thread I read last month the statement was saying that with single stage paints it was very hard to get gloss/shine and required the use of wax to really make it shine. Today's clear coat paints really just need to be polished to get the same shine and the use of wax/sealants is now simply to protect the shine created. Many, many show cars don't even use wax/sealants they are just polished.

Certainly, I believe the use of wax/sealants is important to protect the paint. However, I often find the shine I get after polishing is often more eye pleasing than after I apply a wax or sealant.
 
edschwab1 said:
The article was an interesting bit of free marketing and advertising for the experts (research sources for the article).

Eric
This is what I was thinking. I know that the editors of local papers around here tend to do "public interest" pieces that help out their "acquaintances" regardless of whether or not a competitor may have an opposing view. In fact, there is often only the one source of "facts" sited in lots of said articles. But, hey... "Freedom of the press", right? :innocent:
 
Big Leegr said:
This is what I was thinking. I know that the editors of local papers around here tend to do "public interest" pieces that help out their "acquaintances" regardless of whether or not a competitor may have an opposing view. In fact, there is often only the one source of "facts" sited in lots of said articles. But, hey... "Freedom of the press", right? :innocent:
Which is one of many reasons I call it the Des Moines Inquirer.:D

CharlesW said:
Some excerpts from:
The Des Moines Register
The Newspaper Iowa Depends Upon
(Their quote, not mine. I call it the Des Moines Inquirer.)

Charles
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I better get rid of all my polishes and waxes and just go buy a can of Dupont red compound and a gallon of milk... :horse:
 
harry444 said:
I better get rid of all my polishes and waxes and just go buy a can of Dupont red compound and a gallon of milk... :horse:
Sad to say, quite few people probably will.

Charles
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Gee, Charles.... thanks for the headache!! :chair:
You are quite welcome. :)
1. By the time Michigan thaws out, the parts stores will be all out of rubbing compound.
2. With the lake, I doubt that a water shortage is imminent.
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The thing that bugs me the most is that people will believe what these so called experts are telling them because they "read it in the newspaper".

Charles
 
CharlesW said:
You are quite welcome. :)
1. By the time Michigan thaws out, the parts stores will be all out of rubbing compound.
2. With the lake, I doubt that a water shortage is imminent.
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The thing that bugs me the most is that people will believe what these so called experts are telling them because they "read it in the newspaper".

Charles

Yeah no kidding :rofl it really is sad what some people believe.

Now, that said, I did come across a GOOD article a while back. It was so good in fact, that I've got it on my website:

http://www.hahn-on-the.net/autocare/facts.htm

I think the biggest problem is that most folks don't differentiate between a detail shop and a body shop; they figure a body shop should know all there is to know about caring for paint. :rolleyes:
 
"As far as I'm concerned, you might as well pour a gallon of milk over your car. The new paint and clear coats on cars now don't even need to be waxed," said Kent Acheson, owner of Acheson Auto Body West in Des Moines.

WTF!? I guess any Des Moines detailers here know where they can get business...hand out cards at Acheson Auto Body West. :D
 
What type of milk works best? There are so many choices chocolate, strawberry, white, whole, skim, 2%, 1%, soy, goat's, heavy cream or half and half? Should I mail order a boutique milk or will my local creamery's product work?
:D

Eric
 
xspwrstang said:
Maybe that's what the shop wants, a bunch of people going crazy w/compound so they can tell people they need new paint jobs.
RTexasF it's pretty cool to see someone else from the Valley posting on here. I'm from Weslaco.

Seems like detail obssesive folks like us are spread kinda thin down here! :D Sorry....back on topic.
 
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