Ugh, 2nd time using a PC and still no luck...

[ronmart]

ronmart- Hope I didn't sound all :argue or anything...I'm all for people ramping up slowly when it comes to getting aggressive on their paint.



*SO* many people get in over their heads and end up with new problems that are worse than "just rounding over their marring".

Yes, this was my point. On this we are on the same page.

Only problem with erring on the side of caution is that the results are only so-so, and that's not the end of the world.

True, but different peoples perception of what is good or good enough differs. I like the philosophy of start mild and see how you like the results. If you don't like them, then go for a more aggressive polish before you go to more aggressive pads. Eventually you'll work your way up (if needed) to your comfort zone.



Currently I'm in the phase where Griots Machine Polish 2 on a Griots Orange Pad is as aggressive as I want to get, despite the fact that I'm obsessive compulsive when it comes to detailing and a former paid detailer (back in the 80's). If someone is already a little apprehensive, then starting off slowly makes the most sense to me.

I guess I'm just sorta critical of the GG's stuff as it never really did much of any correction for me compared to other approaches that I also found easier.

I know it probably seems that I'm a Griots fanboy, but I am open to new products. Right now I've got to like them though because I've spent so damn much money on them! :lol



Griots Products are designed to be safe and idiot proof, which is why I like them and highly recommend them. However, the whole reason I'm visiting forums like this is so I can learn about different products and new techniques, so I don't mind a good discussion about why someone prefers their product or technique over mine. If I can be convinced, then I'll join them.



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But the last time I needed something *super* mild for some unusually soft paint, the Machine Polish #3 on a GG's orange did the trick. Makes me wonder how their new Machine Polish #4 would compare to stuff like Menzerna FPII...

I haven't used any Menzerna products, so I can't say. I can tell you that Machine Polish 4 is basically a 60/40 mixture of Griots Best of Show Wax and Griots Machine Polish 3. This would imply that it is really just diluted, rather than having finer abrasive granules in it.

 

[Accumulator]

I can tell you that Machine Polish 4 is basically a 60/40 mixture of Griots Best of Show Wax and Griots Machine Polish 3. This would imply that it is really just diluted, rather than having finer abrasive granules in it.

Ah, thanks for explaining that.



Hmm...one of the things I like about the MP#3 is that it doesn't leave any wax behind, so it's both very mild and fresh-paint-safe; just the thing for still-curing repaints that are too soft for other polishes. But for people (who like Griot's stuff) working with more normal situations, it oughta be a good product.

 

[ronmart]

Ah, thanks for explaining that.



Hmm...one of the things I like about the MP#3 is that it doesn't leave any wax behind, so it's both very mild and fresh-paint-safe; just the thing for still-curing repaints that are too soft for other polishes. But for people (who like Griot's stuff) working with more normal situations, it oughta be a good product.

Yeah, and it is water soluable so even if you are lazy and accidentally leave some in a crevase or on a rubber strip it will remove easily with water, unlike other products which leave a chalky residue that seems impossible to remove.