Turbo Acura NSX | AutoLavish + Chris Amos

I bought (well making payments) on a 1999 Camaro SS. From the looks of it, the car was NEVER detailed. I got to the thinking and it seems like it is a "good" thing. Let me flap my gums a little.



If the clear coat was never touched, I am basically detailing a brand new car that is really really dirty right?



Isn't that better than dealing with a car that no one knows what was used on it, how much was used and what mistakes were made. I'm trying to make sense to a friend who is in the market for a car. He is dead set on buying something with brand new paint but I am telling him to get something with the factory paint job but try to find something that looked like it was never detailed. After a few layers of 3M polish and some Klasse I am sure the finish will be easier to restore than a dead paint job that was detailed 50 times in the past with all kinds of cheap no name detailing products.
 
The paint is in good condition.



To be honest, I kind of would hope that the owner took care of it and use SOMETHING on it. If they had no protection on it, there is more of a risk of acid rain damage, swirls, water spotting, bird dropping etching, and UV fading.



Especially on my Z-28. Before I starting using high quality products on my 1996 Z-26 I noticed the steel panels fading differenly from the composite ones, in under a years time.



My bottom line would be that I don't care how old the paint is, as long as it appears to be in good condition, and the older a car gets the more it depends on how it was taken care of...........



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For the last few months before I got it, I guess it was stored in doors, I opened the hood at the dealer and I could of took a computer compressed air can and spray off a huge amount of dust from every single area of the bay, the interior was dusty and everything, looked like it came out of an attic.



Oh well, I'm more than happy with the paint no nicks on any of the bumpers, no scratches and everyone always thinks it's a 2002 model :-) gotta love it.
 
You can never know if it wasn't detailed in a prior time...Someone may have used abrasives or something...You never know with a used car.



Where as new car it is factory fresh.
 
My dealer swirled up my BMW worse than some used cars I have purchased......



Again, I would take it as a case by case basis......
 
Personally, I would prefer to buy a car that was detailed with Turtle Wax every two months over a car that was NEVER detailed. A car that has not been waxed has been exposed to the elements such as tar, fallout, UV damage, salt, etc... That is not something that I would like. Laters
 
Paint fades after years of not being detailed... Ooooh, does it fade, and there is NOTHING I can do about it!! :( Actually, most people would be more than happy with my car's paint condition, but being an Autopian, I'm not happy that my car is not deep black. I envy the deep super dark black on new cars, and I wish that my car had been well maintained.

I would prefer the Turtle Waxed car over the never-been-touched car. At least it I know that it has been protected from some of the elements.
 
Only think to think about in an "untouched" car, is oxidation of the paint. It's a reaction that will happen no matter what, it's how you slow it down that is a key. You might see how much role oxidation played an effect on your car by comparing it's color to how it looked originally. Older red cars tend to turn an orange shade, etc. Now that's a car that was garaged all its life. On an untouched regular car, contaminants do damage. It's up to you to decide on the extent on the damage on your clear. Get a magnifying glass, carefully clean the car up and inspect it, then decide how well it fared throught the years. Either way, you'll have fun detailing it now :)
 
The sun will fade the paint but it should be uniform unless there are stickers and stuff.



I would still prefer the new car...Plus the new car smell is quite nice!!!:D
 
Not detailed doesn't mean not washed. If you have 3 years worth of swirls from poor washing/drying, plus oxidation and UV damage - you may well have your work cut out for you. No, I don't think I'd rather buy a car that wasn't detailed.
 
well thinking about it more it depends,



not detailed or washed versus automatically washed and turtle waxed every month.



I'd take the former, because a 1999 car shouldn't be show signs of ageing yet, from what he was describing, again depends on how much permanent damage neglect caused versus a car that was majorly swirled due to bad detail/washing.
 
I'd rather work on a car that has some swirls than a car than has been neglected and may have oxidation and or UV damage from not being protected. My friend has a 97 Camaro that has quite a bit of UV damage. The paint is peeling off in many areas as he has only applied wax once in the few years that he has had it. Laters
 
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Honda's NSX had a major impact on the exotic car market when it hit the American shores in 1991. The first all-aluminum body car meant reduced weight while Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electric Control helped to provide extra power to the naturally aspired engine. Today the car remains relivent because of its timeless design, bulletproof reliability, historic relevance, and ability to still give a modern car a run for their money, especially after being modified.
This particular '97 NSX features a turbo system from one of the best NSX modifying companies, Michigan's own LoveFab, that puts horsepower to nearly 500 at the wheel. In addition to the go-fast goodies from LoveFab, the brakes have been upgraded with a Stoptech big brake kit grabbing onto slotted and drilled rotors, lightweight Fiske wheels wearing summer Bridgestone's provide contact with the road, and a conversion has been installed changing from the pop-up headlights (which many feel are a signature of the 90's) to fixed headlight housing with projector High Intensity Discharge lamps that the Acura NSX began switching to starting in 2002.

Because we originally met with the client prior to the work start, we knew we'd be scheduled for as much work as we could schedule in a single day. With a planned 10-11 hours of work planned, we hired a photographer to come along with us and document the work. This would allow us to concentrate on the work at hand, maximizing the amount of work we could complete (and bill for), while getting great pics of how things came along from an outsider's point of view.

Arriving at 9:30AM, and here's what we have; a Spa Yellow NSX is terrific over-all condition. Less than 25k miles, with a very informed and caring owner who does an outstanding job with maintaining both the mechanical and aesthetic aspects of his vehicle.

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Please excuse our dirty lens, and focus on the reflections of the lower right of this pic. This is part of the front bumper, and while shiny, you can see how the reflection is slightly distorted. The shop that repainted the front end of the vehicle worked hard to do the best job possible to match the OEM color, but they blended from the bumper and hood onto the fenders, then clear-coated over the entire front end (not an unusual or bad practice), resulting in slightly more orange peel than the OEM finish. One of our goals on this day was to minimize any apperance of excessive orange peel to give the car a seemless transition in texture.

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Wheel faces clean... but not inside the barrel or lugs.

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Piano black trim doesn't camoflauge swirls.

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Light swirling as a whole, and of course, because of the color, it was hard to see.

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Exhaust tips clean... but not on the inside.

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Reflections... but not absolute clarity.

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Hinges lightly dirty.

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Underside of the door... slightly dirty. It's a hard to reach area that rarely gets love. Luckily for her, AutoLavish would provide that love on this day :)

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Wax residue.

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We first pulled the car out of the sun to cool off. Despite the light color, the surface temp still quickly absorbed a lot of heat.

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Ten minutes later, the max temperature dropped over 20 degrees Fernenheit. Water / soap won't dry as quickly lessening the chance of water marks.

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P21S Gel Helped to clean the wheels.

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While I worked the wheels with a boar's hair brush, a Swissvax wheel brush, and an EZ Detail brush, Jacob used P21S Total Auto Wash and another boar's hair brush to gently lift off dirt, grime, and residue off the jambs.

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A toothbrush helped to relieve grime from various gaskets and hinges.

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Q-tip used to remove gunk from behind the side mirrors.

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When coupled with P21S Total Auto Wash and a boar's hair brush, the grime can easily be flushed away from the surface.

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Thoroughly rinsing brushes directly after use insures that cleaners AND grime are quickly and effectively removed for the next use. Here you see afters of the two-brush method where one brush is kept straight while the other is kept bent to clean quicker with less stress to the metal material used at the core of these brushes.

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There's no reason to have this much gunk on the hood latch. Excess was removed for a cleaner look that wouldn't attract excess dirt in the future.

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Removal of the wax residue and other build up under the "Second hood" with soft brushes and cleaners.

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The benefits of a two-man system: two sets of eyes to spot anything that needs attention, and twice the cleaning power.

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Other various cleaning pictures to include the foaming pre-treatment process.

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The fuel door is another often-forgotten area that many times needs attention. I was able to clean this area while Jacob was flushing the pre-foam treatment from the car, prior to being washed.

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Washed, then blown dry.

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Once dried, painter's tape was used to mask off delicate areas as caution against damage or polish residue. This doesn't just make the work we perform safer, it makes clean-up much quicker, which saves time in the long run.

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Welding shades dim down light so the eye isn't stressed and can better analyse the paint's surface and how it is responding to different Pad+polish+machine+speed+pressure+backing plate combinations.

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Front end thickness measurements. Doesn't match the typical readings of 120-140 from the OEM paint.

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Above the tape line has slightly tigher reflections. Notice the subtle difference in the reflection form the top edge of the garage.

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Jacob continued to finesse away the clear on the front end while I continued to polish out the OEM paint.

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Even the plastic tail lights would be massaged back to absolute clarity.

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The owner was very concerned with the condition of the leather seats, which actually were great but needed some light cleaning. As Jacob continued to refine the finish, I cared for them using Leather Master products; mainly Strong Cleaner and Protection Cream. 1Z Cockpit Premium would handle the other interior surfaces for a clean matte finish.

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About done!

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We turned the halogen lights off and got the NSX ready to pull out for the final wash to remove dust and oils from the paint.

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During the final wash, we made sure the clean the key holes and then kept on to the final engine bay cleaning and wipe down.

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Dew setting in past 9PM as we finish the engine bay.

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Tips coming along...

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Jacob pulling off the rest of the metal polish from various engine bay pieces...

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...while I dress the tires with Optimum Tire Shine.

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Finishing while Blackfire Wet Diamond sets on the paint.

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Cleaning the inside glass, and appling Aquapel to the rear window and windshield once pulled in to avoid the dew point.

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Sealant cured, the paint is wiped clean, and the metal sealant is buffed off the exhaust tips.

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Final inspection with the client to show the difference made and to check for any residue not wiped off. The true reflections of the finish and the pearl in the paint coming alive was amazing.

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To freeze this work in time, we contacted a photographer to capture the results. Chris Amos is best known in automotive photography for the work he does for Winding Road Magazine, but has a diverse portfolio that reflects his flexibility. We were very confident he would be able to bring the best out this beauty, but still ended up shocked by the amazing pictures.

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Chris Amos said:
First off, I want to say that this car is stunning in person. My goal was to represent this as best as I could with my photos. I?d never photographed a car this clean before, and it was liberating to be able to capture every inch of it without shame.
One of the biggest challenges for me was in post-processing. Spa Yellow is a very finicky color to keep consistent in different lighting conditions. I wanted to accurately represent it in different types of light we encountered (direct sun, shade, and fluorescent).

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Chris Amos said:
For the night shots, I used a technique called light painting. I set my camera on a tripod and set it for a 20-30 second exposure. While the shutter is open, I use a light source to walk around the car and ?paint? light on the subject. For my light source I use a 48? shop light with two 40-watt fluorescent bulbs. That is plugged into a portable battery in my backpack. Light painting is a lot of fun because every time you flip the switch there?s a different result. While I was doing these shots on the driveway, I invited the owner outside to take part in the process. He thoroughly enjoyed watching the show!

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Thanks to the owner for allowing us to take this project so far, to Chris Amos for the great photography work, and to you for lending us your time to look at our work!
-Marc and Jacob from AutoLavish

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amazing work, you guys! Love the process, the pics, the details! One question, how long you have that Karcher PW for? I nearly killed mine within 18 months, and was so pissed, that I just recently ordered Cam Spray. Pays off in a long run...
 
Wow, what a writeup and what a stunning job on that car!! Not to mention those pics, just a top notch job from the top down! Great work guys!!
 
Marc,
Every time you post one of your details, I think to myself that this is the best detail I have ever seen, and this one can never be topped. But then, you make another post, and I say the same thing again. Every time you post a detail, I am blown away that it is better then the last one you guys did. Both you and Jacob, continue to impress me with the quality of work you produce an a consistant basis. Your attention to detail is second to none, and your writeups are always so detailed. The pictures were amazing, and whatever you paid for them, they were well worth it.

Great work as always, and a hearty thank you from all of us here at TID:notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:
 
Wow, that was amazing. I love those professional photos. Can I ask how much shots like that would run someone? I bet the owner loved it! The whole documented with such detail.

Inspiring.
 
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