So my Toyo Proxes FZ4s are wearing down so it's time to think about replacements.
I've pretty much narrowed down to Toyo Proxes 4s (no shortage of Toyo fanboys, that's for sure), and the newer Korean Kumho Ecsta ASX tires. Both are ultra-high performance all-seasons. However I have separate winter tires (studded Nokian Hakks). The reason for all-seasons is that in VT winter has an interesting sense of humor, and since this is my primary (and only) vehicle, I don't want to be stuck from a sudden random multi-inch snowstorm in October or April. I figure the all-season gives me a bit of lee-way when switching tires and might be wise for unpredictable Vermont, while at the same time an UHPAS shouldn't compromise on performance too much for my needs.
I don't race, but I drive a bit fast and aggressive, taking turns hard. Although worth noting is that the FZ4s have never given out on me and most people seem to think they're crap... heh. Wet performance is of a concern to me, from hydroplaning scares in my past. We get lots of rain in VT (especially lately) so I want to be safe in the wet as well.
I can't make up my mind between the Proxes 4s and the Ecsta ASXes though. The Proxes 4 has a bigger following, but the most common two complaints I read are winter performance and wear. Of course, there are plenty to say the opposite too, due to the sheer number of Toyo users. The newcomer Ecsta ASXes have a MUCH higher tread-rating (although I read that these ratings are not only bunk, but can't be used acrossed brands to compare). Still... a lot of people say the treadwear on the Kumhos is much better than the Toyos. A lot also say that the Kumhos handle a little snow better as well.
I think the Toyos look sexier and have better street-cred, but I'm trying not to let that influence me. Honest.
Both are in my price range so cost isn't a factor. I am also not beyond considering something else, but there doesn't really seem to be anything more than a few anecdotal opinions for a 3rd runner.
Figured it was worth asking here. What do all you think?
I've pretty much narrowed down to Toyo Proxes 4s (no shortage of Toyo fanboys, that's for sure), and the newer Korean Kumho Ecsta ASX tires. Both are ultra-high performance all-seasons. However I have separate winter tires (studded Nokian Hakks). The reason for all-seasons is that in VT winter has an interesting sense of humor, and since this is my primary (and only) vehicle, I don't want to be stuck from a sudden random multi-inch snowstorm in October or April. I figure the all-season gives me a bit of lee-way when switching tires and might be wise for unpredictable Vermont, while at the same time an UHPAS shouldn't compromise on performance too much for my needs.
I don't race, but I drive a bit fast and aggressive, taking turns hard. Although worth noting is that the FZ4s have never given out on me and most people seem to think they're crap... heh. Wet performance is of a concern to me, from hydroplaning scares in my past. We get lots of rain in VT (especially lately) so I want to be safe in the wet as well.
I can't make up my mind between the Proxes 4s and the Ecsta ASXes though. The Proxes 4 has a bigger following, but the most common two complaints I read are winter performance and wear. Of course, there are plenty to say the opposite too, due to the sheer number of Toyo users. The newcomer Ecsta ASXes have a MUCH higher tread-rating (although I read that these ratings are not only bunk, but can't be used acrossed brands to compare). Still... a lot of people say the treadwear on the Kumhos is much better than the Toyos. A lot also say that the Kumhos handle a little snow better as well.
I think the Toyos look sexier and have better street-cred, but I'm trying not to let that influence me. Honest.
Both are in my price range so cost isn't a factor. I am also not beyond considering something else, but there doesn't really seem to be anything more than a few anecdotal opinions for a 3rd runner.
Figured it was worth asking here. What do all you think?
