Tire cleaner fallout

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ryeh2o

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After many searches and speaking to David B, he suggested i post my question here.

I have a problem with brown spots on the rear quarter panels of my dark green honda accord coupe. They are scattered and in the front section from bottom to about top of tire height.



I have pc'd the car with Faracal compound, dawn washed, and zaino'd with great results.



I think these light brown spots came from me using a product called " No Touch " tire cleaner. It is from a company called Permatex. I sprayed it on, waited the prescribed 10 min. and drove off. It is likely "spun" off the tires onto the paint.

This product was used priror to me finding this web site(autopia) and doing my car detail, and has never been used since.



Have any of you come across this before, and if so, PLEASE help me find a solution to my problem.



Thanks

ryeh2o
 
Have you tried using clay? That usually works in the case of stuff sticking to your paint. Another possible fix would be to try using some bug & tar remover on it. That may help disolve whatever it is. If the clay and the tar remover doesn't work then we are probably going to need to see some good pictures of the damage to see if we can recognize what it is.
 
So do you still have the brown spots?? If so, we had the same problem with our '94 Town & Country back when we first bought it new. After putting a few hundred miles on it that day, my dad and I noticed a lot of brown spots right behind the wheelwell. We took it to the dealer and they approved to get them repainted. They couldn't figure out why it happened.



I don't like the spray on tire stuff. I use EO's tire wipes and its tire dressing.



I wish you good luck solving your problem.
 
I have not used a clay on it. The bug and tar remover sounds like an option, i would have thought the mild abrasive (faracal) should have taken it off. I will try these.



EXplEddieBauer- Yes unfortunatly they are still there. I used Simply green to clean recently, ( can't find eo tire cleaner here) and then 303'd them
 
ryeh2o, have you checked Canadian Tire? That's where I found Eagle One Wet Tire Gel and the tire wipes. This stuff looks good and is really easy to use. The 303 is good too.
 
I have been to a few canadian tire stores, and not one of them have the " Tire Cleaner". They have tons of other E O products just not that one. Let me know if you find it somewhere else though. Thanks
 
My mistake. I misread and thought you meant the tire dressing.



Did you know you can check online if Canadian Tire carries something? There is even a button to check if it's in stock at the CTs near you.
 
ryeh2o said:
I have been to a few canadian tire stores, and not one of them have the " Tire Cleaner". They have tons of other E O products just not that one. Let me know if you find it somewhere else though. Thanks
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You'll probably have to just phone up or check out local parts stores. That's where I get my EO Tire Cleaner. Alternatively you can ask Canadian Tire to order in EO or Mothers tire cleaner from their special order catalog. It's listed there. I also bought the Mothers tire cleaner at Home Hardware if you want it simple. I did a review on it too if you're interested.



I don't use it on my own car, but I've had no slinging problems using No Touch before. You can't just simply wait 10 minutes like they say, you have to wait until the dressing soaks in a bit more and doesn't have any runny spots. If there are you can just wipe them off.
 
By the way, No Touch is a combination cleaner and tire dressing. I just use it as a separate dressing because spraying it on and leaving the dirt on the tire makes for dirty, greasy feeling tires. :down
 
My favorite tire shine is Looks Wet No Mess. It is specifically made to not fling off. It sprays on just like no touch but won't fling. A little high on the price scale, but worth it to me. Feels almost dry in comparison to the others.

No messy gel or sponge wipes are required... sprays on in about ten seconds a tire.



The website is WWW.supershinedetail.com
 
When I took delivery of my car, it also had that problem, and I'm almost certain it's due to the tire dressing they used. My brother's car has been taken out to get detailed and that happened a few times as well.



Have you tried Meguiar's Endurance tire gel? It works great and lasts quite a while.:up
 
Sounds to me like the tire dressing stained the clearcoat. Prolly from the silicone oils or whatever chemical is in that stuff.



If it were my car I'd wipe on some isopropyl alcohol and see if I couldn't leech out some of the silicone. Might take several applications.



Another option is to use a wax & grease remover. 3M makes a great product. You could even try naptha or mineral spirits.



If none of these work you might have to live with the damage. Trying to abrade off the spots with paint polishes is a last resort, IMO.
 
Like others said before what you're dealing with is stained clearcoat, most likely from tire dressing.

Trying to use abrasives to scrub it off will not work and your only solution is to try some strong cleaners, even mineral spirits.

Follow bretfraz and his recommendations starting with milder and going to stronger if necessary (most likely). I don't think you can remove them completely tough but you can make them less visible.

My wife's RX300 has similar stains courtesy of lexus dealer and I had to learn to live with it.



Why don't you try EO's A2Z wheel cleaner (new alkaline formula) as tire cleaner? I use it and stuff works really well and is quite cheap.



Good luck!
 
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I'm going to proceed with the mildest approach, and then progress as needed. I'll post later with what it took to get results.
 
When I was a tech at the Ford dealership, Ford issued a TSB and an Urgent Service Notice (we rarely got those) about tire dressings and the staining of body panels.



From what I recall, the bulletins said something to the effect that "tire dressings containing silicone should stop being used immediately as Ford will no longer warranty body and paint damage caused by what we refer to as "sling." All dealerships should switch to a non-silicone formula as outlined in TSBxxxxxx immediately."



Anyway, no dealerships did, and Ford denied a bazillion warranty claims for rocker panel repaints. I remember seeing the detail guys work like crazy to get rid of the stains, and were only successful about 25% of the time in doing so.
 
Most Silicone is too thick to spray out so it is cut with solvents stronger than even paint thinners. The silicone is harmless on cured paint. Almost every wax and quick detailer contains silicone. It is these solvents causing the problems.



More importantly, I just want to urge you to use the mildest approach. In my eleven years as a detailer i've not yet succesfully removed these spots. So don't cause even more harm by using compounds or strong solvents.



Sorry to say but they are probably permanant. Let us know if you are successful though and what you used if you are.
 
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