Three Step Waxing Process from Mothers

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sammo123321

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I recently bought the Mothers three step waxing process that includes the; Step 1 - PreWax, Step 2 - Sealer & Glaze, Step 3 - Carnuba Wax. I'm just curious on any tips out there or if there are any suggestions that I should use. And how long does the actual application take for all three? Any help on waxing would be welcomed!
 
Are you doing it by hand or by machine? All in all, the Mothers 3 step is a pretty good consumer product. It will clean the paint and addess minor paint swirls. Deeper scratches may need to be addressed by a dedicated polish. All are pretty easy to apply and remove. (depending on the size of the car, I would guess about 30 minutes per step.)
 
2005GTPinMD said:
It works pretty good - I used it a long time ago before I got really into detailing.
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What do you use now if you don't mind me asking? Any good waxes to use after I pre-wax and seal besides Carnuba wax? Synthetic's I've read a lot about, but are unsure if I want to use those...
 
sammo123321 said:
What do you use now if you don't mind me asking? Any good waxes to use after I pre-wax and seal besides Carnuba wax? Synthetic's I've read a lot about, but are unsure if I want to use those...
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I have switched away from using carnuba based products. For a pre-wax clean, I use Klasse All-In-One. To hide minor imperfections, I use Chemical Guys EZ Creme. As my last step product, I currently have two top choices - BlackFire Wet Diamond (which is one of the slickest sealants I have ever used) and Optimum Car Wax (which is a great spray wax when you want to put a quick coat). On a whim I also bought Autolym HD wax- which is a great carnuba hybrid. I love the shine it creates but prefer the durability of sealants. I also use FK425 detailing spray while drying.
 
sammo123321 said:
What do you use now if you don't mind me asking? Any good waxes to use after I pre-wax and seal besides Carnuba wax? Synthetic's I've read a lot about, but are unsure if I want to use those...
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A lot of sealants don't bond well to stuff like the middle step of that system. For a simple step up, try using a better wax for the final step; Collinite, AutoGlym Hi Def, most any "wax" (as opposed to "sealant") will work, just don't use a cleaner-wax.



If you have a red/black car, you might even like Meguiar's #26.
 
Accumulator said:
A lot of sealants don't bond well to stuff like the middle step of that system. For a simple step up, try using a better wax for the final step; Collinite, AutoGlym Hi Def, most any "wax" (as opposed to "sealant") will work, just don't use a cleaner-wax.



If you have a red/black car, you might even like Meguiar's #26.
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Are you saying that I should not use my Pre-Wax Cleaner? Or are you saying that I shouldn't JUST use my Pre-Wax Cleaner and then be done? I'm curious to see how this three step process turns out! I have a White Acura, and there are a few swirl marks on it, and the cost of this system wasn't too bad, so I hope to get at least some decent use / help from the product.



On a second note, if everything goes horrible wrong any suggestions on what I should try form there?
 
Sammo, try out Mother's three-step system and see how it works out for you. I think you'll find that it will work just fine. The Mother's system is a good introduction to car care. If you need or desire further guidance on Mother's products, visit Mother's wax forum. At a later point you may wish to try out other products--there are infinite choices out there--but for now, stick with the products in which you have invested. They are a good place with which to begin. I'm sure your car will look a lot better.
 
I agree with the above. Use the three step method. Then try out some other products. Mothers makes some good stuff. Easy to use also.
 
sammo123321 said:
Are you saying that I should not use my Pre-Wax Cleaner? Or are you saying that I shouldn't JUST use my Pre-Wax Cleaner and then be done? I'm curious to see how this three step process turns out! I have a White Acura, and there are a few swirl marks on it, and the cost of this system wasn't too bad, so I hope to get at least some decent use / help from the product.



On a second note, if everything goes horrible wrong any suggestions on what I should try form there?
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Sorry, I was unclear and got you off on the complete wrong track :o



What I meant is that after using the first two steps, you might like using some other wax for the final/third step. But that's just me looking for a way to gild the lily and you'll be fine just using the three steps and seeing how you like it.
 
Moihers is very forgiving when it comes to technique. You apply just like the directions. As always, most newbies over apply everything so the rule is usually less is better. They all haze quickly when applied with a reasonable amount and very easy to remove. It should not take you very long. Be sure you have enough mf towels to remove each step.



You should clay before you the system so you can get the paint really smooth.
 
The Mothers stuff is great. If you are going to be using a chemical sealant then something different might be better - as the chemicals will not be able to properly bond to the paint. But you can use the Mother's stuff under any Carnuba based wax.
 
Update: The process went great! I ditched the step one and used a clay bar instead. It's amazing how smooth the entire vehicle is! It simply looks stunning after all the steps! It did however take me about 5 hours to do the whole process, so there was work involved, but I'm glad I followed through with it! I think now that the clay bar/step one is out of the way, I will try and follow through more with coating and waxing just because it should be healthier for the vehicle. I would want to try some other type of wax next time however. The wax supplied gave a nice reflection and glow, but kinda rubbed dirt around a lot, and wore off pretty quick (around a week).
 
sammo123321 said:
Update: The process went great!..
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Glad to hear that! :xyxthumbs

It did however take me about 5 hours to do the whole process, so there was work involved, but I'm glad I followed through with it!
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Eh, IMO that's not an outrageous amount of time for your first time doing this stuff. I think you did well in that regard.

... I would want to try some other type of wax next time however. The wax supplied gave a nice reflection and glow, but kinda rubbed dirt around a lot, and wore off pretty quick (around a week).
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Heh heh, not surprised you'd like to try a different wax, and yeah, something longer-lived would be better [insert Collinite suggestion here] but I do wonder what you mean by the "kinda rubbed dirt around a lot" :confused:
 
When I say rubbed dirt around, I mean that when and if anything would touch the surface, it seemed to smudge dirt into that one location. For instance, if I put my hand flat again the paint and move my hand in a downward or upward motion, an imprint of my hand would be left on the surface in a dirt print outline. It was kind of weird, but maybe that's how it is for all wax? I'll try and take a picture if I have some time this weekend and do a before and after shot.
 
sammo123321 said:
When I say rubbed dirt around, I mean that when and if anything would touch the surface, it seemed to smudge dirt into that one location. For instance, if I put my hand flat again the paint and move my hand in a downward or upward motion, an imprint of my hand would be left on the surface in a dirt print outline. It was kind of weird, but maybe that's how it is for all wax? I'll try and take a picture if I have some time this weekend and do a before and after shot.
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That's pretty typical for oil rich glazes (step 2) and waxes (step 3). That's the reason many of us use sealants as they are very "dry" and don't attract dirt.
 
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