Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...

Quick question from a noob, BP1 have you applied CQUK3 yet? I ask as I have a bottle of it and plan on using in spring but wanted to know what you thought of applying it. I’m tempted to sell it and go with kamikaze or 22ple based of what forums seem to like (been reading for a while, like this thread). Not worried they’ll last longer or protect better will probably apply Clutch or Viking spritz monthly. Things I’m wondering is are the visually superior and are the easier to apply. I have a 2016 black mustang, shiny black no metallic.

“Help me BP1 your my only hope”. Get it? Cuz he’s like a coating Jedi.... also anyone who’s used all three your input would be much appreciated.

Thanks
 
Coatings=crack said:
Quick question from a noob, BP1 have you applied CQUK3 yet? I ask as I have a bottle of it and plan on using in spring but wanted to know what you thought of applying it. I’m tempted to sell it and go with kamikaze or 22ple based of what forums seem to like (been reading for a while, like this thread). Not worried they’ll last longer or protect better will probably apply Clutch or Viking spritz monthly. Things I’m wondering is are the visually superior and are the easier to apply. I have a 2016 black mustang, shiny black no metallic.

“Help me BP1 your my only hope”. Get it? Cuz he’s like a coating Jedi.... also anyone who’s used all three your input would be much appreciated.

Thanks
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Don`t be afraid about using CQUK 3.0. It is pretty straight forward to apply. Much easier to apply than the previous version. I have had it on my car for 4 months now and it is performing pretty well thus far. Give it a try and if you don`t like it then try one of the other down the road. I have all three versions of 22ple coatings that I am going to be trying out shortly and I will see how they hold up after a year.
 
Coatings=crack said:
Quick question from a noob, BP1 have you applied CQUK3 yet? I ask as I have a bottle of it and plan on using in spring but wanted to know what you thought of applying it. I’m tempted to sell it and go with kamikaze or 22ple based of what forums seem to like (been reading for a while, like this thread). Not worried they’ll last longer or protect better will probably apply Clutch or Viking spritz monthly. Things I’m wondering is are the visually superior and are the easier to apply. I have a 2016 black mustang, shiny black no metallic.

“Help me BP1 your my only hope”. Get it? Cuz he’s like a coating Jedi.... also anyone who’s used all three your input would be much appreciated.

Thanks
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Have not used CQ UK 3 yet, will likely give it a go in next week or 2. I have high hopes for it based on respected folks here experiences with it.

Should you sell it? Probably not...while I like what I like for a variety of reasons that sure dont mean it`s the greatest in all the land...it just ticks `my` boxes. I`m a Cquartz/CarPro newbie for the most part...maybe I`m missing out on something great.

Wont know until I give it a go and watch it work. I`m kinda done looking for something `better`, for the most part...just like trying new stuff for the sake of experiencing it. Always more Unicorns to chase if you`re so inclined, never ending quest.

I`ve never used a truly bad product and given the results I`ve read so far regarding CQUK 3, I`m sure you`ll be pleased with it.

I certainly know what it`s like to get a bit wrapped up in this, wondering this better or that better; problem being I sometimes get ahead of myself and end up with stuff I either have to work too much to finally use it...or end up not using/giving it away....kinda a dumb way to go about it but, end of day, still fun...but I wouldn`t wish that behavior on anyone
 
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This is further testing after my initial side by side testing. I noticed that IGL Ecocoat Premier and Kamikaze Overcoat were still holding up after most of the others were no longer viable. They both are being used as stand alone products and are doing great at almost two months with no signs of deterioration, amazing. By far the best spray and wipe products I have ever used.


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Thanks! I`m looking for easy solutions for my daughter and son-in-law now they are maintaining their own vehicles. The easier the product is to use the most likely they might do it and keep their vehicles protected.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
In for a penny, in for a pound. May as well go all-in on the CarPro vehicle; Essence, CQUK V3, Gliss V2...although topping Gliss with Reload may be a step backward, no?
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I forgot to tell you that I did add Reload to the drivers side rear door to compare it to the drivers side door which has 4 month old CQUK 3.0 + Gliss 2 weeks ago after a wash. Reload had about 3 1/2 days for it to cure before we got rain here in Southern California. I know it sounds odd saying that and even hearing that. I washed it over the weekend and Reload is nice and all but it`s water behavior wasn`t as impressive as the CQIK 3.0 + Gliss side. It seemed to hold onto water a little more but at the same time the beading was not as tight.

I will see if I notice how long Reload hangs around over the next few weeks.
 
Keep me up to speed on this.

Just got my EliXir. So have Reload and that to compare with.

Picked up the Tangerine Hydro Tech pad plus the 22ple Clay.

Polishing is on the backburner right now as I have honey do`s to do.

But will eventually get back to it.
 
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A bit of Zipang limited self healing.

Looking forward to giving this a try soon, see if it works as well in my world as it does in their shop. Couldn`t figure out a way to link besides direct to Instagram, hopefully doesn`t violate forum rules.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BrRAV9UlBMP/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=3sjgunknmwy6
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Dammit. Gotta stay of forums till I coat my car.......so awesome. If you have a little zipang left could you apply a little on the vehicle your gonna use CQUK3? I’m gonna use that as a base and don’t mind fork over the 3 bills if can get same results...





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I’m never going to keep my hands off my car for “self-healing” to work for me. I’m guessing that if you put any type of SiO2 topper over a self-healing coating then you can give up on self-healing. This is just a theory. If I was a coat it and forget it type then it might work. Self-healing sounds great in practice, but I’ll wait until the products have been on the market for awhile.

I believe IGL had a self-healing coating a few years ago and gave up on the technology. Please correct me if I’m wrong on this IGL reps.
 
Coatings=crack said:
Dammit. Gotta stay of forums till I coat my car.......so awesome. If you have a little zipang left could you apply a little on the vehicle your gonna use CQUK3? I’m gonna use that as a base and don’t mind fork over the 3 bills if can get same results...





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That`s quite an interesting thought. If I have some leftover of both, perhaps I`ll pull one of the older trucks outta hibernation and give it a go. While I`m sure both vendor and mfg have vetted the Miyabi base, Zipang on top scenario pretty sure Zipang on top of another coating would be new territory.
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I’m never going to keep my hands off my car for “self-healing” to work for me. I’m guessing that if you put any type of SiO2 topper over a self-healing coating then you can give up on self-healing. This is just a theory. If I was a coat it and forget it type then it might work. Self-healing sounds great in practice, but I’ll wait until the products have been on the market for awhile.

I believe IGL had a self-healing coating a few years ago and gave up on the technology. Please correct me if I’m wrong on this IGL reps.
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I`ve asked that of the vendor and it should be a non-issue...but seeing is believing so until my own eyeballs see it, I`ll reserve judgement on that point.

Product description notes:

"For maintaining Zipang Coat, we recommend washing the vehicle with a pH neutral shampoo like`Gyeon Bathe...then using`Kamikaze Overcoat every 4-6 washes. "

Additionally, as we plan on haven PPF applied to the entirety of wife`s new toy this Spring, I asked if the self healing characteristics of the PPF would be diminished by putting anything on top of it, including coatings, and was told that it would not interfere with PPF self healing characteristics.

I dont really understand how it wouldn`t but I guess we`ll see...I`m certainly no expert though but it just doesn`t make sense to me. We most likely wont be coating the PPF though so dunno how to prove/disprove that without getting myself into a "shoulda just left it alone" situation...again.
 
I would have to see the self-healing effect under Overcoat myself. Overcoat is a stout topper, still looks perfect after3 months. IMO it would interfere with a coating until it wore off unless Overcoat self-heals too.

You can marr/scratch a coating, we have seen it done so the PPF while not being affected you would see the marring on the coating. Personally I’m not sure about coating PPF. I don’t think it would hurt but also not sure it helps. Maybe after the PPF gets older and you want to extend its life? PPF is out of my range of expertise.


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I would have to see the self-healing effect under Overcoat myself. Overcoat is a stout topper, still looks perfect after3 months. IMO it would interfere with a coating until it wore off unless Overcoat self-heals too.

You can marr/scratch a coating, we have seen it done so the PPF while not being affected you would see the marring on the coating. Personally I’m not sure about coating PPF. I don’t think it would hurt but also not sure it helps. Maybe after the PPF gets older and you want to extend its life? PPF is out of my range of expertise.


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Yeah, the whole limited self healing thing, be it PPF or a coating, is beyond my understanding at this point. I guess its gonna be an interesting few months ahead, more than just gloss, durability and self cleaning.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Yeah, the whole limited self healing thing, be it PPF or a coating, is beyond my understanding at this point. I guess its gonna be an interesting few months ahead, more than just gloss, durability and self cleaning.
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How does PPF do with marring? Scratches look like they would be easier as the material flows back together to repair a scratch. I’ve seen more marring from rocks and bugs than scratches. PPF is resistant to most things due to its ability to absorb hits, but they leave marring or dull spots when hit hard. I’ve never seen old PPF that looked good. I always see the “can I buff PPF” threads.
 
The PPF is gonna be a whole new adventure; while I`ve looked into it best I can and solicited opinions from a few different sources at the end of the day it`s mostly a trust issue with what the installer advises and after that, seeing is believing...or not. Kinda a $$ leap of faith but like most detailing products, ya just never know how it`s gonna work out until you jump in and give it a try. On the plus side, only effort required from me on this particular project is writing the check. Fortunately the wife is totally in tune with this escapade...

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How does PPF do with marring? Scratches look like they would be easier as the material flows back together to repair a scratch. I’ve seen more marring from rocks and bugs than scratches. PPF is resistant to most things due to its ability to absorb hits, but they leave marring or dull spots when hit hard. I’ve never seen old PPF that looked good. I always see the “can I buff PPF” threads.
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Coatings=crack said:
Budget, what’s wife’s new ride your going to be PFFing


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Replacing her 2004 Corvette with new one.

While we did LT headers, full exhaust, intake and dyno tune on the 2004 and she raced it at local dragstrip relatively often, just gonna leave this one stock I think. Too old to roll around garage floor anymore.

And while I`d love to have a new car to polish and coat, gonna let the pro`s handle this one. Hopefully PPF lives up to (cautiously optimistic) expectations...

Will also be nice to see how the work of a good shop turns out...
 
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What coating are you going to let the “pros” install?
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Current plan is to have car go direct from dealer to shop to have it completely wrapped in STEK DynoShield, likely no coating, maintain going forward with Overcoat or maybe even something like PA Rapidwaxx. Gonna be interesting experience for sure, something a bit different than what I`m used to.
 
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Current plan is to have car go direct from dealer to shop to have it completely wrapped in STEK DynoShield, likely no coating, maintain going forward with Overcoat or maybe even something like PA Rapidwaxx. Gonna be interesting experience for sure, something a bit different than what I`m used to.
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Nice car! Seen the ammo dude do it on his Porsche. Ppf...cancoat.....interesting combo. In 100 years they’ll clear coat forcefuelds they’ll put on cars..... people will probably put cancoat on those too.


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BudgetPlan1 said:
Current plan is to have car go direct from dealer to shop to have it completely wrapped in STEK DynoShield, likely no coating, maintain going forward with Overcoat or maybe even something like PA Rapidwaxx. Gonna be interesting experience for sure, something a bit different than what I`m used to.
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I think Overcoat would be a good choice. With this car being garaged most of the time Overcoat should last for years.
 
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