The Workout/Weight Loss Thread
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Accumulator
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Oh you crazy people from down South! Accumulatorette is the same way, being from Memphis.
Accumulator
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BUMP
Wish this thread were more active.
I could always just post to it as if talking to myself but that's a bit, uhm.... vain even for me :redface:
After eating/drinking anything I wanted to during the last ~6 weeks of the year, I'm pretty much back to my usual condition at this point without having had to do anything drastic.
Wish this thread were more active.
I could always just post to it as if talking to myself but that's a bit, uhm.... vain even for me :redface:
After eating/drinking anything I wanted to during the last ~6 weeks of the year, I'm pretty much back to my usual condition at this point without having had to do anything drastic.
RaysWay
Autopia Specialist
I had no idea about this thread. Alright I'm joining the party. Time to lose the Holiday weight (from 2010 
). Gym tonight.
). Gym tonight.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
I think I'm allergic to exercise.
It makes me sweat and my heart race.
It makes me sweat and my heart race.
Accumulator
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Seems like as many people want to lose (fat) weight as want to build muscle.
IMO/IME it's the same answer for both- exercise with sufficient intensity to make a real difference.
People always think I spend a LOT more time exercising than I do; IMO it's not about burning calories *while you exercise* but rather about burning them the other ~23+ hours of the day. In other words, turn your body into a calorie-burning machine.
Seriously... a lot of people I know who are my age are starting to edge into the "gonna have serious issues" category, if they're not there already. When those people are actual friends, it's just plain sad.
IMO/IME it's the same answer for both- exercise with sufficient intensity to make a real difference.
People always think I spend a LOT more time exercising than I do; IMO it's not about burning calories *while you exercise* but rather about burning them the other ~23+ hours of the day. In other words, turn your body into a calorie-burning machine.
Seriously... a lot of people I know who are my age are starting to edge into the "gonna have serious issues" category, if they're not there already. When those people are actual friends, it's just plain sad.
Seems like this "age-related heath" issue as much about taking care of one's own self through proper nutrition and exercise. The REAL issue is that I am responsible for my own health, whether I have genetically-prone health issues or physical limitations. It's up to me to take the time to exercise or to find out what is good nutrition and learning to how to prepare simple meals. While ignorance can be an excuse, stupidity is not. There is a reason the US government mandates nutritional information on all processes foods; so that we as consumers know what we eat. Does anyone really READ this information and realize that the 8 ounce bag of potato chips you just ate while watching TV gave you 1,500 mg of sodium or about 75% of what a healthy-recommended daily intake of sodium should be??
Unfortunately, this issue is also a societal conundrum of fast-food and medical pill-popping advertising that bombard us daily. We (me, to be more precise) want it now with instant results. It's much easier to take doctor-prescribed pills than to change one's sedentary and empty-nutrition eating lifestyle. Good habits are difficult to cultivate because I presume I do not have the ability, inclination/motivation, or time to do so. We (I) wait for a big heath issue to occur, THEN I will take care of it because I have to. Prevention is my responsibility. Those of you who work at places that now emphasis health-related incentives and require their participation know what this means. I wish that this would be a much bigger component of the Affordable Health-care Act, but then that makes too much sense. As once was quoted by Will Rodgers, "Apparently common sense isn't so common."
OK, time to get off my soap box and go back to detailing....
RaskyR1
Rasky's Auto Detailing
Yeah, I definitely fit into the "want to burn fat and still build muscle" category!
Can you elaborate more on your comment in bold? I work at a desk 8-10hrs a day during the week so I'm limited to what can do for exercise during this time.
My issue has always been consistency. I will be hard at it 3-5 days a week for a couple months and then a miss a day, then 2, and before you know it I'm back in a rut. By no means am I in bad shape, but the spare tire area is not the 6-pack I had when I was 30 and my goal is to get back to there by the time I turn 40 this April, and keep it that way.
Currently lifting 3 days a week and doing cardio 2-3 days. No more eating out, the wife and I plan all meals for the week every Sunday night. I wouldn't say everything is super healthy, but it's far, far better then what we'd be eating if we went out.
House of Wax
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my goal this week is to do some more research and put some dinner plans together to get going on a "Keto" diet with the wife next week. Wanna drop about 20lbs. and I've heard from several people that had good results doing that. Not looking forward to it....first couple weeks always BLOW haha.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
tropicsteve
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it's the breyers ice cream and chips ahoy cookies, but I can quit anytime I want to... :swirly:
Accumulator
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Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm gonna point out some areas of disagreement...let's see if we *really* disagree or not (and if we do, that's cool, OK to agree-to-disagree) and I kinda bet that we *don't*.
Only in that after a while stuff catches up to you and that can create a different type of urgency. The whole "things change as you get older" hasn't really been a factor *in my case* so I wonder how much it really needs to be.
We sure agree there! Props for realizing that, a lot of people don't, or *won't*.
Exact opposite opinion here- ignorance is *NOT* an excuse IMO especially since info is *so* easy to find these days. What used to take many hours of research in a library now takes minutes online. The big challenge is knowing how to interpret that info (beware hidden agendas..) and how to tell the truth from the BS.
Stupidity, OTOH, can't really be fixed; I genuinely feel sorry for stupid people.
It never ceases to amaze me that people *don't* read/know/understand such stuff. People know the fine-point details of all sorts of "info" but don't know the basics about what they're subsisting on?!? Heh heh, if this weren't Autopia I'd probably go on a rant about people knowing more about wax than about nutrition. But again, there's just *so* much BS out there.
That's another one that really makes me wonder! Everybody oughta read books like "Predictably Irrational" and learn to disregard buy-this-crap advertising. Heh heh, food/medicine advertising always makes me think "no thanks!", but that's just me.
Change that belief
Get into the whole "delayed gratification" thing (guess that's easier said than done!).
You have more power over yourself than you're giving yourself credit for.
Heh heh, taking a pill isn't as satisfying as accomplishing something. When I start the day with a demanding workout, whatever else the day throws at me is easy by comparison.
But you're right, this stuff *does* take time (and effort). Gets into the whole "time is your most precious resource, so be careful how you spend it" thing.
I bet we're all guilty of that at some point. But once you come to the realization (*as you already have*) then you're already making a positive step in the right direction IMO.
See, *you get it*!! Don't discount how important that realization is. Seriously, people avoid facing up to that all the time, but not you. Give yourself more credit
Oh man, talk about being on a soapbox..can you tell I care about this stuff?!?Hope the above doesn't sound contentious or that I'm otherwise being a [jerk], it's just that I do care about this topic (more than I care about shiny cars, but hey, this is Autopia).
Only in that after a while stuff catches up to you and that can create a different type of urgency. The whole "things change as you get older" hasn't really been a factor *in my case* so I wonder how much it really needs to be.
We sure agree there! Props for realizing that, a lot of people don't, or *won't*.
Exact opposite opinion here- ignorance is *NOT* an excuse IMO especially since info is *so* easy to find these days. What used to take many hours of research in a library now takes minutes online. The big challenge is knowing how to interpret that info (beware hidden agendas..) and how to tell the truth from the BS.
Stupidity, OTOH, can't really be fixed; I genuinely feel sorry for stupid people.
It never ceases to amaze me that people *don't* read/know/understand such stuff. People know the fine-point details of all sorts of "info" but don't know the basics about what they're subsisting on?!? Heh heh, if this weren't Autopia I'd probably go on a rant about people knowing more about wax than about nutrition. But again, there's just *so* much BS out there.
That's another one that really makes me wonder! Everybody oughta read books like "Predictably Irrational" and learn to disregard buy-this-crap advertising. Heh heh, food/medicine advertising always makes me think "no thanks!", but that's just me.
Change that belief
Get into the whole "delayed gratification" thing (guess that's easier said than done!).You have more power over yourself than you're giving yourself credit for.
Heh heh, taking a pill isn't as satisfying as accomplishing something. When I start the day with a demanding workout, whatever else the day throws at me is easy by comparison.
But you're right, this stuff *does* take time (and effort). Gets into the whole "time is your most precious resource, so be careful how you spend it" thing.
I bet we're all guilty of that at some point. But once you come to the realization (*as you already have*) then you're already making a positive step in the right direction IMO.
See, *you get it*!! Don't discount how important that realization is. Seriously, people avoid facing up to that all the time, but not you. Give yourself more credit
Oh man, talk about being on a soapbox..can you tell I care about this stuff?!?Hope the above doesn't sound contentious or that I'm otherwise being a [jerk], it's just that I do care about this topic (more than I care about shiny cars, but hey, this is Autopia).
Accumulator
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Yeah, I definitely fit into the "want to burn fat and still build muscle" category!
Heh heh, have you noticed that you're not the only person with that goal?!?
First, remember that the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn even when you're sedentary. And when it comes to doing cardio, don't waste time doing ineficient workouts- cardio at a moderate level of exertion, i.e. the "fat burning zone", burns a little higher % of fat while you're doing it but that stops shortly after you quit exercising. But OTOH doing cardio at ~90% of your max (seems like *every* study agrees on that "~90%" ) is different because you keep burning calories for a long time after you quit for the day. Has to do with the effect on mitochondria, which just doesn't happen at lower intensity.
I'm at least as lean and muscular these days, even though I'm older, than I was when I exercised a *LOT* more. And even when I take a layoff, things don't go downhill the way they used to.
Yeah, that happens a lot.
Maybe come up with a different routine/workout schedule that's easier to stick to. Make the "I can stick to this even when Real Life Happens" a *HUGE* priority when coming up with your plan. The less time you have to allocate to exercise the easier it is to schedule, so make the best use of that time.
And tweaking your mindset can help too- when something does come up, just accept it and make definite, deliberate plans to get back to it. Even if that just means telling yourself something like "this missed workout will give me some extra recovery, I'm gonna do great next time and in the meanwhile I'm gonna watch what I eat and drink". And then plan that "next time" in a way that you'll do it (not some "emergency catch-up" workout that'd be tough to schedule).
Ya know, I used to scoff at that "positive self-talk" stuff, but it can be really powerful.
By no means am I in bad shape, but the spare tire area is not the 6-pack I had when I was 30 and my goal is to get back to there by the time I turn 40 this April, and keep it that way.
Good idea, at your age you can get into a good habit. Sometimes those milestone bdays can be good motivation. And you're thinking long-term too. Remember that it's an open-ended process, a "marathon not a sprint".
If you do the right workouts, that oughta be plenty. Heh heh, a really good, productive workout takes a while to recover from so maybe you won't even need that much. The trick here is to make those workouts productive.
FWIW, I hit each muscle group about once every 7-10 days, though I work abs a bit more frequently. I do abs on most cardio days, and I usually do cardio three times in every ten-day cycle. And my workouts dont take long, a fraction of the time they used to.
My general rule- I can exercise hard, or I can exercise long/frequently, but I can't do both. And exercising hard is what gives me the best results. So other than the hard work being...well, hard ^_^ it's all a win-win.
Accumulator
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Potato chips, ice cream, cookies....heh heh heh...expecting me to be critical? Nah, hey, I like some awfully unhealthy stuff myself, but IMO the trick is to not let what you do mess up your life. It's all about having a good life, as you define that.
RaysWay
Autopia Specialist
good to see this thread active again.Accumulator
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Yeah, January was probably a good month to revive it, what with New Year's Resolutions and all.
Accumulator, you've NEVER been a [jerk] in my book. It's just that SOOOOO many health issues are (bad)diet-and-(no) exercise-related that the American public would put the health and medicine industries out of the serious money-making businesses that they are IF they followed a better regiment on both issues. I know I do not, and that makes me stupid (no unkind words to my self, just a harsh self-judgment) because I DO know better and what to do.
Accumulator
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Lonnie- Thanks, just never quite know how I come across online, and you know how *everybody* on the internet knows *everything*.
And yeah, all that crappy advice is, IMO, literally killing people, just slowly enough that they don't realize it. I'm all for making $, but I wonder how some people live with themselves. Eh, maybe they really believe that [stuff].
Now quit calling yourself stupid (yeah yeah, I know what you mean ) and pick a different adjective! Like, "oh, I'm so stubborn!" or something like that. As I said, that self-talk stuff can really matter; IMO we internalize it more than we realize and it can start factoring in to our, uhm....default processing. Sounds to me like you just need to find some better way to assimilate what you already know and consistently put it into action, maybe a better way of, uhm...selling it to yourself. My first-blush thought is to maybe go about it more incrementally, not some drastic shock-to-the-system that (at some level) you just can't internalize. Pull off some small successes and build on 'em.
And yeah, all that crappy advice is, IMO, literally killing people, just slowly enough that they don't realize it. I'm all for making $, but I wonder how some people live with themselves. Eh, maybe they really believe that [stuff].
Now quit calling yourself stupid (yeah yeah, I know what you mean
) and pick a different adjective! Like, "oh, I'm so stubborn!" or something like that. As I said, that self-talk stuff can really matter; IMO we internalize it more than we realize and it can start factoring in to our, uhm....default processing. Sounds to me like you just need to find some better way to assimilate what you already know and consistently put it into action, maybe a better way of, uhm...selling it to yourself. My first-blush thought is to maybe go about it more incrementally, not some drastic shock-to-the-system that (at some level) you just can't internalize. Pull off some small successes and build on 'em.
Beemerboy
Just One More Coat
8531 miles on this red machine last year..that's up from 6200 the year before. I've been an avid road rider since the late 70's ...raced for a few years in my earlier 30's I love the road and living in Sonoma County (No Cal) I ride all year except when it's raining
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Ended up with 5672 miles on my road bike and now MTB last year. Considering I was at 387 miles in the middle of April, I finished the year pretty strong. Now that I have a MTB, I have more cold weather options, easier to wear warm clothes and not look like a total fred riding dirt. Unfortunately, all the rain we've had to finish last year and start this year means most of my bike on the MTB has been paved trails. Still trying to find my traction limits in curves on the MTB riding in dirt. Excellent trails, well marked and challenging...but still so wet right now.
Gained about 5 lbs over the holidays but back eating good and riding more to start the year than last year. First January I can remember in at least 20 years where I am wearing size 32 waist jeans this time of year. Haven't been lifting in about 6 weeks, tweaked my shoulder and it still isn't 100%. Rather wait until its right than make it worse and not lift for a really long time. Besides, the gym I go to has been jamb packed since the 1st of the year. I figure in about a week, most of the resolution people will have stopped going and hopefully the shoulder is better.
Gained about 5 lbs over the holidays but back eating good and riding more to start the year than last year. First January I can remember in at least 20 years where I am wearing size 32 waist jeans this time of year. Haven't been lifting in about 6 weeks, tweaked my shoulder and it still isn't 100%. Rather wait until its right than make it worse and not lift for a really long time. Besides, the gym I go to has been jamb packed since the 1st of the year. I figure in about a week, most of the resolution people will have stopped going and hopefully the shoulder is better.