The ultimate detailer???

I personally feel I could produce just as good a results. I don't charge nearly as much as him though. Give me a week to work on a vehicle, and a $2000 price tag, and I'll put a **** load of effort into it as well.
 
You know who loves this guy? The people he buys his products from! He is all about how much this or that costs...with the mindset that since he pays 5,000 pounds for a wax it MUST be the best and people likewise think the same thing.



He also seeks to impress people with his many "steps" yet I never consider rinsing a "step" nor do I see cleaning wheels as a seperate "step". Now this may boil down to personal likes and such but for me "step 1" is a hand wash which includes rinse, wash, rinse, drying, wheels and tires.......wheels and tires done FIRST and not after you dried the car because you'll end up drying the car again around the wheel areas.



Also is it just me or is that video filled with misinformation? So it's the ONLY wax that comes from Brazil? It sets up hard as concrete and lasts 6 months? What's so special about the clay he uses, how does it differ from Brand X?



The difference is marketing and using keywords that tickle the consumers ears. I'll give him credit there. Other than that I am not that impressed and as I said earlier....I have seen just as good or better here on Autopia from non-pros.
 
Exactly, with the vehicles he's working on, I'd expect nothing but perfection, especially since he works on literally brand new vehicles.



Its like, oh look at me, I did this to a car that only had 10000 miles.



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:LOLOL Steve!



Let's see him do what he does to some of the cars we detail. Like minivans. ;)



Got to hand it to him though, he is convincing some very rich people to part with a lot of money.
 
Scottwax said:
:LOLOL Steve!



Let's see him do what he does to some of the cars we detail. Like minivans. ;)



Got to hand it to him though, he is convincing some very rich people to part with a lot of money.
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Hell, if I had those kinda marketing skills, I'd be making a **** load of money too. I don't rip people off though. :rolleyes:
 
Sounds like a lot of envious listros are out there. FYI you don’t have to be on this forum or any forum to be a excellent detailer.
 
doged said:
Sounds like a lot of envious listros are out there. FYI you don’t have to be on this forum or any forum to be a excellent detailer.
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Yes, there are tons of excellant detailers out in the world and most of them are not on ths forum or any other forum.



Am I envious of this guy? Not really, why should I be? He is across the pond so no real threat to us state side. I will be the first to admit that many of the cars I do personally are cream puffs, garage queens and there isn't a great deal of effort to get most of them better than showroom, hence my comment about not being that impressed with the detail aspect.



There is alot of smoke being blown up peoples "bums" over there BUT if they are wiling to pay his fees then more power to him. I congratulate him on his success and also his reputation as being the "go to guy" but I feel he is laughing all the way to the bank.



Anthony
 
wannafbody said:
a fool and his money are soon parted. IMO if he markets to fools more power to him.
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Where can I find said fools?
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However, if he keeps a car for a week and does a full on concours level detail, a few thousand is more than fair compensation.
 
Geez I'm certainly not impressed with that video I just watches

The washing was the main part and also the way he uses the microfibre, all scrunched up



Noticed he was using sonus ultra fine clay, I love that stuff.
 
Anthony Orosco said:
You know who loves this guy? The people he buys his products from! He is all about how much this or that costs...with the mindset that since he pays 5,000 pounds for a wax it MUST be the best and people likewise think the same thing.



He also seeks to impress people with his many "steps" yet I never consider rinsing a "step" nor do I see cleaning wheels as a seperate "step". Now this may boil down to personal likes and such but for me "step 1" is a hand wash which includes rinse, wash, rinse, drying, wheels and tires.......wheels and tires done FIRST and not after you dried the car because you'll end up drying the car again around the wheel areas.



Also is it just me or is that video filled with misinformation? So it's the ONLY wax that comes from Brazil? It sets up hard as concrete and lasts 6 months? What's so special about the clay he uses, how does it differ from Brand X?



The difference is marketing and using keywords that tickle the consumers ears. I'll give him credit there. Other than that I am not that impressed and as I said earlier....I have seen just as good or better here on Autopia from non-pros.
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:werd: Totally agree :)
 
Anyone notice the 75 pound wash bucket? Looks like his truck is pretty well organized. Interesting to see his hand wax technique.
 
I know this may be a stretch for most, but I have to ask.



Would you let a guy that does not present himself properly or that does not come highly reccommended from someone you trusted work on your $1,000,000 car that can not be replaced?



I wouldnt.
 
SilvaBimma said:
Anyone notice the 75 pound wash bucket? Looks like his truck is pretty well organized. Interesting to see his hand wax technique.
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Yea his truck/van is set up pretty nice. Looks like a rolling tool bin!



As for his hand wax technique...it's nothing new as many beauty wax makers state that this type of application process is best used to get maximum benefit from their waxes. It can be a rather difficult to get the hang of but it does come out pretty nice because the solvents aren't being soaked up by the sponge or cloth but fully applied to the paint.



I started doing this with Victoria wax and had a hard time getting used to it but now I prefer it. I just did a Rover today with the beta Opti-seal and then did a hand rub application of Victoria hand wax. The downside to this type of process comes when your phone rings and you're trying to answer it with waxed hands :doh :chuckle:



Also, in the video this guy states that by doing it with his hands the air acts as a catalyst for the wax, correct? Well is not air the catalyst for all waxes?



Anthony
 
jsatek said:
I know this may be a stretch for most, but I have to ask.



Would you let a guy that does not present himself properly or that does not come highly reccommended from someone you trusted work on your $1,000,000 car that can not be replaced?



I wouldnt.
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People with “real money� and cars like that think differently. Somehow this person jumped on a opportunity and made a name for himself. Detailing is a very subjective service and anyone can call themselfs, “The best in the world�. Who gives the gold medal for best detailer? The World Wide Federation of Detailing LOL............
 
I think jsatek makes a good point. I probably wouldn't even let a pro detailer work on my car unless I could watch them work at least once, see their finished results, agreed with their techniques and product choices, etc etc.



Anyway, his sponge washing technique and microfiber drying technique did not seem very Autopian. Where is the blotting?!!
 
Did we notice he power washed the cars. Then dried them. Then used P21s on the rims... when did he rinse them??
 
A lot of you are thinking too small. You are thinking more like a worker and not like an owner. That video is not an instructional video on how to clean a car.



I own a home remodeling business - I have never cut a piece of wood or hammered a nail on one of my jobs. I sell kitchens that average at $50,000 and I could give the person paying for it enough info to be completely sold on using my company. I couldnt compete the work myself though. My staff tells me things like, " I used 6 screws in that cabinet", and "I used mahogony shims to line up those cabines" - the customer simply doesnt care. If I wore the customer out with those details, they wouldnt use me. The people are buying the fact that I can schedule and manage the team that does the work. I schedule the project, I present the dependencies, I execute the agreed upon plan. Thats all. They see videos and pictures of the end results I produce and they are happy.



Too much info is sometimes not good for business.
 
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