The Need to W-O-W-O Souveran (NOT!)

Well, when I'm wrong I'm wrong :D and I kinda figured I wasn't the only one who thought you'd have trouble if you let Souveran set up too long.



Yeah, somebody tried letting P21s set up with similar results. This was a while ago; he went into the kitchen, fogot about it and was all :eek: that he'd have problems, but ended up liking it *better*.



I've done the W-O-W-O with other waxes that I usually let set up, and I experienced a *possible* but negligable decrease in durability. It wasn't a huge difference by any means. But thos waxes (#16, 476S) are pretty durable no matter how you apply them and I usually refresh them before they really need it anyhow. If I still had the Volvo I'd do a side-by-side to see what the durability differences really are, but I don't want to play around like that on the cars I have now :D



OH, and FWIW, I really do a wipe on-*PAUSE*-wipe off anyhow. That pause is the big thing, it allows the wax to pretty much flash off; IMO I'm not doing a *true* W-O-W-O.



I too wonder how the spit-shining relates to this...when you spitshine shoes you really build up a lot of shoe polish and Nick T.'s original thread made it seem like you'd be building up a lot of wax. But that's doing the "true" spit-shine, which involves a lot of layers of wax over a short period of time. I'd guess that the negative aspects of the W-O-W-O aspect of spit-shining are more than overcome by the numerous applications of wax.
 
I guess what I'm thinking about...is what is this film of LSP on our vehicles? No one has ever had a measurable thickness (except when Accumulator claimed he had marring in his layers of SG). Is it microns thick? Is it molecules thick? Is what remains on the surface a coating like a coat of paint? Or is it only what is/can be molecularly attracted to the surface? If it is only what molecular attraction will hold, then it shouldn't matter how long it is in contact with the surface (for a wax, which, I guess, isn't doing any crosslinking, this might be different for a polymer which may generate its molecular attraction by crosslinking, which would take time). Is the extra pressure required to remove a dried wax removing more remaining product than is left by WOWO? The same?



The community is talking a lot about QD and spray wax products which are not allowed to dry before removing (Crystal Mist, OCW, FK 425, Z8) and which are said to have some lasting protection, yet all of these are WOWO products. I don't hear anyone claiming they got more durability out of any of those by letting them dry on the surface before removing.



I'm not arguing here, just trying to understand how it is that you leave more on the surface by dry buffing than wet buffing, because I don't understand how any of these products are adhering to the surface. If the process were analagous to painting, we would all be painting our cars, rather than waxing them, so obviously it is different. Perhaps one of the ChemE's will enlighten us as to the atomic bond of a wax/sealant to the surface of the paint.
 
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