boon4376 said:
I tried this stuff a few years ago on my discovery, I had the same results. Easy on, hard to remove, however i did apply it pretty thick.
But during a VERY hard down pour rain, i went out the next day and on a lot of verticle edges of the truck there appeared to be white scratches. The white stuff rubbeds right off luckily, it wasnt actually scratches, rather it was the teflon wax! It seems the heavy rain seems to have striped the wax right off the paint and grouped it into thick white lines that look like scratches. It seems not to be very durable at all. My paint was firetruck red and it looked beautiful and glossy for the first few days.... until it rained.
Did you find similar problems with it, or any other waxes?
What you are experiencing is wax residue. This problem usually occurs when you quickly apply a wax (which usually results to applying it to thickly). What happens is when you go to remove the wax, you don't get all that wax off since it is so thick, so after a day or so it will 'cure' and completely dry, leaving white residue wherever it is still left too thick. My best is that you would have experienced that regardless if it rained or not.
orionredwing said:
Thanks to Wolf for this awesome thread! It is so impressive. This is my first post as well, and I came in searching specifically for comparisons about Meguiar waxes. I have used Meguiars #7 and #26 for 10 years and love it, but recently decided to try a full line of non-OTC products.
I bought the entire set of polish glazes sealants with the exception of the wax, since I love #26 so much. So here I am looking at my shopping cart in my 2nd round order, trying to decide whether I wanted to spend $80 on Pinnacle Souveran....but thought I should come on to search first.
I love #26 so much, and imagine my surprise and delight when I found this thread.
So I have decided not to go with the PS in the end, and will stick with Meguiar's for just the wax. I am itching to try the NXT 2.0, but am glad that my tried and true #26 will still be a part of my detailing arsenal.
Glad I could help
Don't get me wrong, PS is a good wax and if you take into consideration that it is very easy to work with, does a decent job beading/sheeting, smells good, and doesn't stain trim, that alone will fulfill the needs of certain people. My only real complaint about the stuff is the price, and with the lower cost ($35 compared to $85!) Pinnacle Signature Series II at $35, I would rather just use that if my #1 need was a WOWO wax that doesn't stain trim.
I have however grown to realize that the key in making your car look good all the time is in the maintenance and not letting it get anything beyond dusty. The dirtier the car means the more dirt there is to remove from the paint, meaning that there is a bigger risk of scratching it. This has led me on a whole new quest!
Now, my goal is looking into the best way to maintain the already protected surface to ensure that it stays scratch-free and protected against things like bird bombs and sap. I have came to the conclusion that the easier and quicker a product is to use, the more you can use it, ensuring a surface that is protected to the maximum. This has really spiked my interest in waxes that provide great protection, and are very easy to use (and not ludicrously expensive).
Right now I am using Meguiar's NXT 2.0 tied with UQD as a maintenance product and the results are stunning! The key behind this though IMO is the UQD as it adds to NXT's unique abilities and the two work incredibly well together. I have however noticed that Turtle Wax has reformulated their ICE Quick Detailer and it seems to try to compete directly with UQD. Now I did a comparison between the two a long time ago, and both were neck and neck with the only real advantage of UQD being that it provided a very fine mist that was great to work with while ICE just kind of coughed out the spray. Both seemed to use just as much product in the mist though so there was no real clear winner from what I saw, and that was in direct sunlight on black paint! Well, with the new formulation came a bigger bottle size making it cheaper, so I think I will just have to buy the ICE liquid polish and QD and try them out for a while to see how I like it!
So, I have taken a different perspective on the purpose of the wax. I now believe that you should get the paint to look the way you want it to look BEFORE waxing, and that a wax/sealant is a means of keeping it looking that good, with a good maintenance item a key ingredient in that whole process.
The journey continues!
