Thank you Nick T - Spit Shining #16

you know Aurora40 i never really liked the aurora's. but after reading all your threads and seeing all the pictures of your car. hot damn, it looks nicer and nicer!! :up



it's just amazing how much better cars look when they are cared for. also the reason why i never really was attracted to aurora's was because all the ones i ever see in person were dirty as poo poo, so it never caught my eye. again, good stuff man! :xyxthumbs
 
AdvonspaanDC5 said:
you know Aurora40 i never really liked the aurora's. but after reading all your threads and seeing all the pictures of your car. hot damn, it looks nicer and nicer!! :up



it's just amazing how much better cars look when they are cared for. also the reason why i never really was attracted to aurora's was because all the ones i ever see in person were dirty as poo poo, so it never caught my eye. again, good stuff man! :xyxthumbs
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Heheheh, thanks a lot! Glad I could bring you around to see the light! You should try driving one, you'll like them even more. :) :wavey
 
Would a heavier wax, like 1Grand's Blitz, work well in this application? I am still trying to get my arms around this process. Seems like everyone has a slightly different "angle" on it.



Also, I'd think this would be an ideal application (light, uniform pressure) for the PC + finishing pad. No?? If you have to make multiple passes on a panel, the PC would be a benefit.
 
Would a heavier wax, like 1Grand's Blitz, work well in this application? I am still trying to get my arms around this process. Seems like everyone has a slightly different "angle" on it.



Also, I'd think this would be an ideal application (light, uniform pressure) for the PC + finishing pad. No?? If you have to make multiple passes on a panel, the PC would be a benefit.
 
tom p. said:
Would a heavier wax, like 1Grand's Blitz, work well in this application? I am still trying to get my arms around this process. Seems like everyone has a slightly different "angle" on it.



Also, I'd think this would be an ideal application (light, uniform pressure) for the PC + finishing pad. No?? If you have to make multiple passes on a panel, the PC would be a benefit.
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As you noted, everybody has their own take on this.



I tried to do some none-too-scientific experimenting but I didn't get any cut and dried results (heh heh, must not've been scientific enough :o ). Next time I do it (note to self...) I'll try to remember to do something with a little control and documentation. A few random observations follow:



Looks-wise, spitshining Souveran with CM seems to have the greatest effect. I could definitely see a difference when I spitshined a few applications of Souveran on top of Collinite 476S on the light blue Volvo, and others could spot it too.



The spitshining mentioned from here on was done with the Cyclo and Griot's Speed Shine. Note that the Cyclo is a rather aggressive way to apply wax and that the Speed Shine might have some solvent action greater than distilled water would have (but it does contain carnauba).



The heavy waxes (#16 and Colinite 476S) seem less fragile so I dunno if the spitshining is as necessary for layering to take place. Seems that with something like Souveran it's more important to *not* disturb the previous application. But spitshining the heavy waxes did have some subtle effects.



Spitshining heavy waxes seems to allow a greater "working" of the wax before it hazes, especially when doing it by machine. I was surprised to see that this resulted in differences in beading characteristics, as if the additional working time further "burnished" the surface (or the wax on the surface) a little bit. If it resulted in anything looks-wise I didn't spot it (on silver) nor did I *feel* any difference (which didn't surprise me; everything just felt freshly waxed).



Doing half the trunk lid with #16/speedshine/Cyclo and the other half regular (non spit shine but still on/off via Cyclo) resulted in the beads on the spit-shined side being a little larger and *much* more spherical, like they were just *barely* contacting the surface of the panel. They also seemed to roll off a bit better. Any differences were no longer apparent after two washes. I did not discern any differences in durability.



Much as I liked doing it, I dunno if spitshining via machine is necessarily the way to go due to the possibility of disturbing the previous application. I'd at least be *very* gentle, using the PC with a very soft finishing pad. Using the Cyclo with the white finishing pads seemed a little aggressive. But that's a purely subjective opinon and it's not like it resulted in any noticeable durability issues so :nixweiss
 
tom p. said:
Would a heavier wax, like 1Grand's Blitz, work well in this application? I am still trying to get my arms around this process. Seems like everyone has a slightly different "angle" on it.



Also, I'd think this would be an ideal application (light, uniform pressure) for the PC + finishing pad. No?? If you have to make multiple passes on a panel, the PC would be a benefit.
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As you noted, everybody has their own take on this.



I tried to do some none-too-scientific experimenting but I didn't get any cut and dried results (heh heh, must not've been scientific enough :o ). Next time I do it (note to self...) I'll try to remember to do something with a little control and documentation. A few random observations follow:



Looks-wise, spitshining Souveran with CM seems to have the greatest effect. I could definitely see a difference when I spitshined a few applications of Souveran on top of Collinite 476S on the light blue Volvo, and others could spot it too.



The spitshining mentioned from here on was done with the Cyclo and Griot's Speed Shine. Note that the Cyclo is a rather aggressive way to apply wax and that the Speed Shine might have some solvent action greater than distilled water would have (but it does contain carnauba).



The heavy waxes (#16 and Colinite 476S) seem less fragile so I dunno if the spitshining is as necessary for layering to take place. Seems that with something like Souveran it's more important to *not* disturb the previous application. But spitshining the heavy waxes did have some subtle effects.



Spitshining heavy waxes seems to allow a greater "working" of the wax before it hazes, especially when doing it by machine. I was surprised to see that this resulted in differences in beading characteristics, as if the additional working time further "burnished" the surface (or the wax on the surface) a little bit. If it resulted in anything looks-wise I didn't spot it (on silver) nor did I *feel* any difference (which didn't surprise me; everything just felt freshly waxed).



Doing half the trunk lid with #16/speedshine/Cyclo and the other half regular (non spit shine but still on/off via Cyclo) resulted in the beads on the spit-shined side being a little larger and *much* more spherical, like they were just *barely* contacting the surface of the panel. They also seemed to roll off a bit better. Any differences were no longer apparent after two washes. I did not discern any differences in durability.



Much as I liked doing it, I dunno if spitshining via machine is necessarily the way to go due to the possibility of disturbing the previous application. I'd at least be *very* gentle, using the PC with a very soft finishing pad. Using the Cyclo with the white finishing pads seemed a little aggressive. But that's a purely subjective opinon and it's not like it resulted in any noticeable durability issues so :nixweiss
 
The spit-shining process takes a while but is very rewarding. I've used Souveran and S100 with Pinnacle Crystal Mist. Obviously Souveran looked the best, but I was surprised at how much it was transformed. The depth was improved, and the sharpness of reflections was greatly improved. Also, beading was tighter and much more resistant to water spots and attracting dust.



Here's my method (quite similar to other methods):



Spray surface a couple times with QD

Apply wax by hand

Spray again with QD

Go across with PC and finishing pad (I used a Meguiars one) and work in very slowly at a low speed

Wipe off with a microfiber

Use a suede-cloth bonnet on a polishing pad at medium speed, again work slowly and apply some pressure
 
The spit-shining process takes a while but is very rewarding. I've used Souveran and S100 with Pinnacle Crystal Mist. Obviously Souveran looked the best, but I was surprised at how much it was transformed. The depth was improved, and the sharpness of reflections was greatly improved. Also, beading was tighter and much more resistant to water spots and attracting dust.



Here's my method (quite similar to other methods):



Spray surface a couple times with QD

Apply wax by hand

Spray again with QD

Go across with PC and finishing pad (I used a Meguiars one) and work in very slowly at a low speed

Wipe off with a microfiber

Use a suede-cloth bonnet on a polishing pad at medium speed, again work slowly and apply some pressure
 
Griz said:
The spit-shining process takes a while but is very rewarding. I've used Souveran and S100 with Pinnacle Crystal Mist. Obviously Souveran looked the best, but I was surprised at how much it was transformed. The depth was improved, and the sharpness of reflections was greatly improved. Also, beading was tighter and much more resistant to water spots and attracting dust.



Here's my method (quite similar to other methods):



Spray surface a couple times with QD

Apply wax by hand

Spray again with QD

Go across with PC and finishing pad (I used a Meguiars one) and work in very slowly at a low speed

Wipe off with a microfiber

Use a suede-cloth bonnet on a polishing pad at medium speed, again work slowly and apply some pressure
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Could this be done with nattys paste wax?Also will Nxt QD work? Do you have to do the last step? Thanks
 
Griz said:
The spit-shining process takes a while but is very rewarding. I've used Souveran and S100 with Pinnacle Crystal Mist. Obviously Souveran looked the best, but I was surprised at how much it was transformed. The depth was improved, and the sharpness of reflections was greatly improved. Also, beading was tighter and much more resistant to water spots and attracting dust.



Here's my method (quite similar to other methods):



Spray surface a couple times with QD

Apply wax by hand

Spray again with QD

Go across with PC and finishing pad (I used a Meguiars one) and work in very slowly at a low speed

Wipe off with a microfiber

Use a suede-cloth bonnet on a polishing pad at medium speed, again work slowly and apply some pressure
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Could this be done with nattys paste wax?Also will Nxt QD work? Do you have to do the last step? Thanks
 
I haven't tried my Natty's blue yet, though I probably will some time this weekend.



NXT QD... I'm not sure because I've never used it before.



And with regards to doing the last step, it's up to you - I noticed a difference. Was it so much that the last step was absolutely necessary? No. However, you can use a microfiber towel instead of the bonnet. I should mention though, that I've had mixed results with using a microfiber to buff (sometimes good results, sometimes just a waste of time).
 
I haven't tried my Natty's blue yet, though I probably will some time this weekend.



NXT QD... I'm not sure because I've never used it before.



And with regards to doing the last step, it's up to you - I noticed a difference. Was it so much that the last step was absolutely necessary? No. However, you can use a microfiber towel instead of the bonnet. I should mention though, that I've had mixed results with using a microfiber to buff (sometimes good results, sometimes just a waste of time).
 
well i must say thank u



i though i would give it a go myself



i gave it a #7 last week so when i saw this post i thought i must try it out

i didn`t have any #16 but had goldclass paste



it looked out of this world when the job was done



next time i mite try NXT mist wax instead of QD and see what the results are



so the nite i went for a take away just for a treat and when the focus was parked up ppl were stopping and staring at 1st i though something was wrong with the car, when i went out 2 guys asked me what i used to get it so shinny i just told them that i was a detailer

so both asked when could i book there cars in so i asked what they had and 1 said he had a DB7 and the other said an SL55 AMG. SWEET £Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£ :clap: :clap: :clap:



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well i must say thank u



i though i would give it a go myself



i gave it a #7 last week so when i saw this post i thought i must try it out

i didn`t have any #16 but had goldclass paste



it looked out of this world when the job was done



next time i mite try NXT mist wax instead of QD and see what the results are



so the nite i went for a take away just for a treat and when the focus was parked up ppl were stopping and staring at 1st i though something was wrong with the car, when i went out 2 guys asked me what i used to get it so shinny i just told them that i was a detailer

so both asked when could i book there cars in so i asked what they had and 1 said he had a DB7 and the other said an SL55 AMG. SWEET £Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£ :clap: :clap: :clap:



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Accumulator, thanks for sharing your observations. I guess I'll try by hand first.



In the cases I've seen, dark colored paint seems to get the most impact from this spit shining routine. Some of the results have been dramatic, IMO.



I am very curious about that "water-based" pink carnauba wax (Beauty Shine??)...it seems like that formulation would be just about ideal for spit shining. Has anyone worked with it? I don't see much mention of it.



Thanks.
 
Accumulator, thanks for sharing your observations. I guess I'll try by hand first.



In the cases I've seen, dark colored paint seems to get the most impact from this spit shining routine. Some of the results have been dramatic, IMO.



I am very curious about that "water-based" pink carnauba wax (Beauty Shine??)...it seems like that formulation would be just about ideal for spit shining. Has anyone worked with it? I don't see much mention of it.



Thanks.
 
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