Terry Schiavo

SilverLexus said:
I found out yesterday that in an old interview with Larry King, Michael Schiavo said he was not sure what Terri would want as far as dying.



This raises real questions in my mind...how can he now claim that she wanted to die than live like this?



If we are not sure what Terri wanted why not let her parent's take over and care for her?



The fact that Michael has moved on to another woman, even without a divorce certainly raises questions about his motives.
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That is the main problem I have with this whole case as well. Michael Schiavo. He hasn't acted like her husband in years other than to enforce his right to remove her feeding tube.
 
"He hasn't acted like her husband in years other than to enforce his right to remove her feeding tube."



I agree Scott...I don't get why he would not divorce his wife to be with the other woman if he is such a good guy. Something is fishy here.
 
He has a right to go on with his life. His wife is dead. She's been dead for years. It wasn't just a few weeks ago that he wanted to fulfill a promise to his wife. This has been going on for years. He has the right to go on with his life while doing his best to carry out his wife's wishes.



He's acted like a loving husband in seeking out the best care for his wife. Once it was fully determined that she wasn't going to recover, he chose to carry out her wishes.



Why does everyone thing the parents know best? How many parents out there know exactly what their kid want with such matters? The "Err on the side of life" is a talking point, not a motto.



If Terry wore a burka or had a red dot on her forehead, would anyone on the right really give a crap about the case?



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If people would be so kind, I would like to give one more source of my information. THIS IS A MUST READ! WHAT YOU DO WITH THIS INFO IS UP TO YOU. This backs up what I said earlier about Michaels comments about her dying.



http://www.glennbeck.com/news/03142005.shtml



when you go to this page scroll down to where it says affidavit of Heidi Law, and affidavit of Carla Sauer.
 
"If Terry wore a burka or had a red dot on her forehead, would anyone on the right really give a crap about the case?"



Of course we would care, every life is precious.
 
III said:
It's reported that Terry is on a morfeen/morfin (however you spell it) drip. If it's reported by Michael's doctor's & his lawyer that Terry can't feel pain, why the morfeen? [/B]
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Im not a doctor, but I read in starvation cases they put people into a morphine induced coma. Becasue during starvation the acids in the body eat itself from the inside out, then they get symptoms like convulsions to the point of breaking their own back. I guess being in a coma stops these things from happening?
 
I guess you really have to put your selves in each person's shoes....



What would you want as a parent?...

What would you want as a husband?....

What would you want if you were Terri?...



We can't really make all these suggestions and accusations unless we are in the situation itself. It's easy to say, "I would let her live...", or "I would let her die..." when we're not really dealing with it. Sometimes I think to myself that if I were Terri, and in such a condition, I wouldn't like to live that way. However, if I were a parent or a husband, it's difficult to let someone you love go.



This is my only post on this topic and will be my last.
 
I have to come back to this one. First of all, she's been taking aspirin for menstrual cramps since day one. Pain? Guess so. Second, it was announced that the Pope is now going to have to have a feeding tube inserted, either through the nose or straight to the stomach. I sure hope he told EVERYONE what his wishes are. I'd hate to be the one to kill the Pope. Oh wait, it's not murder, it's natures course, right? Third, he is not her husband in any decent sense. He's the father of 2 children with another woman. Does no one else know that adultery is a crime? The so-called facts are so contradictory in this case that it's not even humorous. Michael has moved on but still considers himself her guardian. I'm thankful that I don't have to decide on this matter. I'm not pointing fingers here, but there is much hidden from us in the public.
 
I'd hate to be the one to kill the Pope. Oh wait, it's not murder, it's natures course, right?
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Like it or not, if it was up to nature, she WOULD be dead.



If you are supporting our troops in IRAQ you are supporting the killing innocent people.



Does no one else know that adultery is a crime?
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Please....



You are not in his shoes. Are you that perfect that you feel ok about judging another man like that?



I am sure we could find many faults with you and your unclean thoughts. :D:confused:
 
LightngSVT said:
Im not a doctor, but I read in starvation cases they put people into a morphine
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They administer morphine for the sake of the loved ones not because it does anything for the patient. (Terry's case) Hope it helps.
 
Dude, just because the Pope has a feeding tube doesn't mean he shares Terri's condition. After all, he delieverd Easter services a couple days ago.



So, is it "murder" if the person would not want to have a feeding tube inserted and the courts (and 20 judges) agreed?



Is it "murder" when we, "Joe citizen" are granted authority by the State and agree to sentence someone to die on death row? After all, we're killing him.



Jeez, try explaining that one to the man upstairs when you stand before him on Judgement Day (if that's what you believe).



Murder is defined by killing someone unlawfully. So abortion, Terri's case and the death penalty can't be characterized as murder. It's all within the law. Unless you want to redefine murder.



Hopefully euthenasia (and stem cell research for that matter) will come up on the ballot in all the States as a referendum since a majority of the country supports it (them). This way it'll go into law and we can continue to advance medically and scientifically into the 21st century and not have a handful of people and their medeival religious sensibilities hijack progress.
 
Adultery a crime?!



Jeez, you best lock up half our politicians - Clinton, Newt Gingrich to name 2 of a million - half our sports figues - tons of our neighbors and co-workers and if you're a literal believer in the Bible as the direct word of God then read Matthew 5:28 because you're going to have lock yourself up!! (myself included - but I call that human nature)



âہ“But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.â€Â�



Whosever LOOKETH... in my heart? Gosh, I was in NY City today on a beautiful Spring day and there were plenty o' women who I would lust after! lol!



My point is, adultery as a crime is dopey. Is it enforced? I'm curious. I know it is grounds for a divorce.



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when I say "lock yourself up", I don't mean anyone here specifcally.
 
I knew I should have stayed out of this one. I admit that if Terri did not want to be "kept alive" she should have been allowed to die. The only person who heard her say that was her wonderful husband, who kept that under his hat for 7 years. As for me claiming to be perfect, where did I say anything remotely close to that? All he had to do was divorce her. Besides, I am not judging, I'm stating the fact. He had sexual relations with someone other than his spouse. Plain and simple. That does not require a "judge". Why WOULD we see any recent video of her? The media has kept any and all progress/positive outlook under lock and key. Where did all the charts go that documented her improvement? Why are the doctors continually giving pain meds if she is in such a peaceful state? And you are right about finding fault with me. I'm full of faults. I admit them, I confront them, and I work on them.



I support our troops in Iraq because it's their job. Innocent people die all the time. Our troops are not over there picking off innocent people. They are being ambushed and car-bombed. If you don't support them, fine, that's your call. How convenient that the definition of a word can be changed. 35 years ago, abortion WAS unlawful. Here's one for ya: if you take someone's life with a gun to the head, you will probably get charged with murder in the first degree, right? But if you happen to run over someone with your car because you fell asleep at the wheel, you will more than likely face a charge of involuntary manslaughter. Why would it not be murder? It's unlawful to fall asleep at the wheel, therefore it should be murder, right? "Unlawful" is just another term that a judge gets to define. Ergo, abortion is just fine to some. If any person is undeserving to die (having not commited a crime, sin, or fault) it's an unborn child. After the age of accountability, EVERYONE is guilty of something. My 4 1/2 daughter is learning that not telling the truth gets her in trouble. She does not deserve to die and she has done more wrong than a helpless unborn that did not make the choice to be conceived. Now before this gets completely out of hand, I am not referring to any rape victim when it comes to abortion, so you can leave that argument at the door. I'm referring to consenting adults who want to play the game but find it "inconvenient" to be pregnant at this point in their life. You can consider my beliefs medeival, but remember this: who were the first few groups of people that Hitler decided to do away with? Unwanted children. "Useless" elderly people. Mentally handicapped. Lazy people.
 
Wow, let's not skew it too far away from the Schiavo thing. People get so emotional over issues like this that logic becomes tangential. A grown person can make that choice, a baby, fetus, whatever you want to call it cannot. It is all hearsay now, but suppose she did say she didn't want to live that way? The other side says well suppose she DID! Well, we don't know and never will. It is becoming apparent to me that this issue is drawing to a close with the continued denial of the courts to touch the subject anymore. I think Iraq is a separate and equally interesting topic to discuss, but maybe not in this here thread. Once again, the words "living will" come to mind.
 
I'm just as guilty as the next for lusting. We know that there is not much purity left in this world. Does it make it all OK if a bunch of other people are doing it? No. I don't know of a single person charged and convicted of adultery. It's still a crime in the law books. I didn't write the law books. Just because it's not enforced does not make it legal. It's just tolerated. Here's another example of a law that isn't upheld as much as it should be. If you lie on the stand, under oath, in a court of law, you can be charged with purgery and go to jail for it. But if you LIED on the stand, under oath, in a court of law, and it was proven later, nothing happens. Did you still lie? Yes. Will you face jail time? Probably not.
 
I believe that would still be perjury, and you could still be charged and found guilty at a later date. Witness "Lil Kim" who is currently on trial for perjury that occurred in 2003. Perjury doesn't have to be proven right while you are sitting in the chair on the stand.
 
I tend to get very emotional about certain things, and for that I apologize. I don't mean to offend anyone, and I don't like arguing. A debate is something different entirely. Unfortunately, you don't usually debate over facts, only theories, opinions, thoughts, and "hearsay". If I were in Terri's exact position, I would not want anything, repeat ANYTHING to keep me alive. The less time I spend on earth, the better. I know that I will spend eternity with my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ in Heaven. Even after my countless faults, lustings, lies, and every other sin I have ever committed. I am not perfect, just forgiven.
 
I'm not saying purgery HAS to be proven while on the stand. I saying that if someone commits a crime, swears on the stand that they didn't, then the DA shows undoubtable proof that they did, they don't tack on time for purgery.



Anyways, back to Terri.



Does Michael acknowledge that Terri is a Catholic? I'm sure that's something he remembers about her. Why won't he let her have a burial instead of a Catholic-forbidden cremation?
 
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