Talk me out of this

Perferd said:
^Yes that is exactly what I said congrats you are superduper smart...
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Well, I do have an IQ of 83...



Sorry, the F150 became the most popular vehicle sold in the US in 1982 or so...and it wasn't because it was being sold for half off. And the SUV didn't become the vehicle of choice for housewives because they have a side business. Maybe LAST year the trucks were going for half off, but I wasn't talking about last year, I was talking about the last decade and a half.
 
Besides the other reasons already mentioned, I definitely wouldn't want that car as my DD simply because the color.



The car just screams "LOOK AT ME!" I'm a low ley person and with that color its just too much for me.



As a weekend car it might be nice.
 
XRL- Doing the smart thing is usually the smart thing ;) Good decision IMO. If you decide that you *really* want it you can always reconsider...not like that's the only chance you'll get.





Dsoto87 said:
Besides the other reasons already mentioned, I definitely wouldn't want that car as my DD simply because the color.



The car just screams "LOOK AT ME!" I'm a low ley person and with that color its just too much for me..
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Much as I do like the color, I feel the same way. My M3 is basically that color and while I really like how it looks, it garners a lot more attention than I'd prefer and that's one reason why it basically just sits around as a never-ending reconditioning project while I drive other stuff.



Gee, how I've changed...
 
You're very right Accumulator. I've got nothing but time.



I think Mitsubishi read this thread, because today they sent me this.



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They're like "cars bad! hatchbacks good!" Haha.
 
First and foremost, it's a freakin' 4 door sedan. I had a 1966 Charger, and of course, it was a 2 door coupe. A four door Charger is a travesty/abortion.



Jim
 
Accumulator said:
I dunno about the paint not staying desirable; my mother had a '69 Charger in that color and forty years later I still think it's cool. Of course some might argue that if *I* think something's cool then it's *SO* not :o
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While our personal likes rarely change as time goes on, some colors are kind of trendy. The body styles of cars are also very trendy. The American Automotive market decided to go back to an older body style muscle car with a modern twist (like the Charger). These trends always seem to repeat themselves. Wait until the Ford Model A makes a comeback :) . :getdown
 
"...will need new tires and some other expensive maintenance..."



I can understand tires but "other expensive maintenance" at 33,000 miles? What is it going to need at 50,000? No quite known for reliability. You may be getting it at a fair price, but at what cost?



LL
 
howareb said:
While our personal likes rarely change as time goes on, some colors are kind of trendy. The body styles of cars are also very trendy.. Wait until the Ford Model A makes a comeback..
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Heh heh, yeah (especially some of those 60s/70s colors)...and the trendy colors I like are the same ones I wouldn't want to be in every day.



And trendy styling...well, uhm... my wife and I are still fans of the old "three box styling"; our ideas of nice-looking cars are so out-of-date it's just pitiful. Wonder if our Audis will come back into style in my lifetime :o
 
I've also noticed those non-popular/mainstream colors sit around on the lots and thenet as well as the papers alot longer than the silvers, whites, blacks & reds. Not saying thier ugly colors (cough, cough), but they do kinda have to appeal to a small segment of the market.
 
lland said:
"...will need new tires and some other expensive maintenance..."



I can understand tires but "other expensive maintenance" at 33,000 miles? What is it going to need at 50,000? No quite known for reliability. You may be getting it at a fair price, but at what cost?



LL
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No, my current car needs new tires and the maintenance. It's almost to 100k, and at 100k it needs a timing belt, water pump, and valve adjustment. Easily a $1500 job to get it done at a good shop (would probably take it to a good honda mechanic or the honda dealership. I'd probably want to get the tranny flushed at the same time.. It also needs new tires, which would be 600-700, and I need my wheel fixed when I do tires (its bent and leaks air) for 100-150, and new brakes. So I'm looking at somewhere between 2000-2500 in upkeep. But after that it should be good for... well however long the tires last. It'll be paid off in at most 2 years as well, and should have plenty of life left in it then.



But the question is if I will still want it then, I mean I'm already not thrilled with it now. The fiscal conservative side of me says it'll be fine still, and that it'd be a great DD so i could get something super nice and not drive it too much (I still love the Jeep SRT8s, or maybe an Audi S4 Avant, or S5, who knows?). But the inner hoon in me is like "its not fast enough! get something new that is faster, cooler, and doesn't rattle!".



Oh well, now's not the time to be worrying about this I suppose.
 
Here is another thing to consider. In 2 years when your vehicle is paid off, which will have better resale, a Honda or a Charger. I have seen many Hondas with over 100K on them go for $2-4k easily. The Charger may be worth about 1/3 of what they are asking for it by that time, especially since Chargers are a dime a dozen. Also most people buy the Hemi powered ones to do one thing, go hard and fast, you can't tell if this one you are looking at has gotten the crap beat out of it. I would say hold off and pay off your current vehicle, because in the mean time you will probably find something else that is of better quality and suits you better.
 
David Fermani said:
I've also noticed those non-popular/mainstream colors sit around on the lots and thenet as well as the papers alot longer than the silvers, whites, blacks & reds..they do kinda have to appeal to a small segment of the market.
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Luckily for me, my Byzanz Metallic M3 is always in demand :D Guess it's either not that weird or the target market is heavy on the odd people ;)



XRL said:
No, my current car needs new tires and the maintenance. It's almost to 100k, and at 100k it needs a timing belt, water pump, and valve adjustment.. So I'm looking at somewhere between 2000-2500 in upkeep. But after that it should be good for... well however long the tires last. It'll be paid off in at most 2 years as well, and should have plenty of life left in it then...
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I always figure that required maintenance gets factored in to the car's value. SOOO many cars are sold right before they need a timing belt and IMO it's not like the buyers are clueless about such stuff. I always knock off such costs when deciding what to offer for something.

But the question is if I will still want it then, I mean I'm already not thrilled with it now...
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I can sympathize with that...gotta like your daily driver to some extent.

But the inner hoon in me is like "its not fast enough! get something new that is faster, cooler, and doesn't rattle!".
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Take a few driving schools and you might not feel that way. It's a lot more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow, and a good driver in a Honda can lap an average driver in a 'vette.



First priority when "it's not fast enough"- upgrade the biological software (i.e., the driver's abilities).



First priority when "it's not cool enough"- reconsider the vehicle's true role.



Now the rattles..well, those could bug me. But all sorts of cars develope rattles/etc., especially cars with nice firm suspensions...like maybe a Charger ;)



Oh well, now's not the time to be worrying about this I suppose.
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Maybe now's the time to be *thinking* about it so you make the right decision at the right time.
 
It's actually not a Honda is the thing, it's a Saturn :P So resale value might work out to be a moot point. Then again, since it has a Honda engine and transmission, it's very likely that i would be able to sell it private party for substantially more than I would trade-in.



You are probably right about that Accumulator. I've been looking solely at trade-in with it though, and they've never asked if it needs any maintenance or anything though.



I can probably fix the rattles. They're just typical cheapass GM rattles. GM has this aversion to using screw or high quality plastics or anything to keep your interior looking and sounding quality.
 
i have a couple of chrysler products....over 1100hp between the two of them..lol..killing the ozone one hp at a time...easy to maintain and a lot cheaper than my ferrari..both get >20mpg on the hwy...both handle like a dream and the quality is top notch...



i absolutely despise honda.... i did try a nissan product one time (armada) and it had the most issues of any car i've owned ...at one point the dealer had to replace all the rotors due to a recall and the steering wheel still vibrated like a turbo dildo



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XRL said:
..I've been looking solely at trade-in with it though, and they've never asked if it needs any maintenance or anything though...
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If they don't ask, and you haven't had it done, then just keep quiet about it ;)



But if you *have* had such work done I'd make a big deal out of it. Being able to assure them that it's "lot-ready" can make a difference IME, even though the person writing up the trade-in value might be assuming their mechanic can do the work for next to nothing.



It's sorta like having it all detailed..one less thing they need to spend time/money on before they flip it.
 
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