swirls aren't really gone

tuffluck-I can't get everything out by hand, especially on the newer cars that have harder paint, which is why I ended up getting a PC. Probably going to get a rotary eventually but not before I get a paint thickness guage!



Like the other said, NXT should be thick and even when you get a new bottle, remember, it isn't a substitute for removing the swirls. #9 has very light abrasives, so NXT won't remove that polishing effect but it will remove some of the polishing oils it leaves behind.



Anything stronger than DACP should be use with at least a PC but a rotary is better since heavy compounds are designed to work with the heat of the rotary for proper results.
 
After the initial big time detail it should be at least a year or so before it needs more machine polishing if properly maintained.



You will get washing marks and drying marks in your paint, it's just a fact of life.......these though should be light and can and should be farily easy to polish out by hand and then re-sealed.



What's the name of your friends company here in SA?



I keep my NXT in my garage........I feel in love with the stuff at first but it has now been shelved.



Take care,

Anthony
 
Scottwax said:
tuffluck-I can't get everything out by hand, especially on the newer cars that have harder paint, which is why I ended up getting a PC. Probably going to get a rotary eventually but not before I get a paint thickness guage!



Like the other said, NXT should be thick and even when you get a new bottle, remember, it isn't a substitute for removing the swirls. #9 has very light abrasives, so NXT won't remove that polishing effect but it will remove some of the polishing oils it leaves behind.



Anything stronger than DACP should be use with at least a PC but a rotary is better since heavy compounds are designed to work with the heat of the rotary for proper results.
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WHAT?!?!



Scott using a rotary?? May it never be so! :nono



I for one feel that you have hammered out a name for yourself because you can do the things you do by hand, you are unique among a sea of detailers. Get a rotary and you'll be like the rest of us......boring:nixweiss



It will be the end of a era:(



Anthony
 
Anthony-any reason in particular you are no longer using NXT? Any performance issues? Personal preference? I go back and forth on it. I like it on some colors and other products on other colors. Not a huge difference, just tweaking in that 5-10% range.
 
Anthony Orosco said:
WHAT?!?!



Scott using a rotary?? May it never be so! :nono



I for one feel that you have hammered out a name for yourself because you can do the things you do by hand, you are unique among a sea of detailers. Get a rotary and you'll be like the rest of us......boring:nixweiss



It will be the end of a era:(



Anthony
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Harder paint is forcing the issue. I am not getting much out of the new PPG CeramiClear by hand. At the Meguiars/Autopia meet, I did do a demonstration for Mike Phillips using DACP by hand on a single stage black SC400 and he said he couldn't see a difference between the sides and Brian (SqkyKln) looked at the paint and guessed wrong at which side was done by hand. ;)



I am finding I can get a deeper initial polish more quickly with the PC and instead of going (as an example) DACP and a glaze by hand, I can just use SFP #82 and go straight to the wax in most cases. I can still wax a lot faster by hand though.
 
that's crazy stuff. scott, i'd like to see what you can make out of my car, although i think it's in pretty good condition at the present. i rubbed the hell out of the DACP, so i would have thought it did all it could do. i could be wrong though.



scott, do you keep your nxt inside or outside? i know it sounds silly, but i seriously think that might have an affect on how it behaves. i put a coat on of the old nxt i had on saturday, and when i pulled under the car wash to put the new stuff on, i had swirls galore. after one coat, i couldn't see ANY swirls under that light. so i did another coat just for kicks. then i drove down the road and parked in an albertsons. i could then see swirls - NOT as many, but swirls nonetheless. what the ...? any explanation for that?
 
Scott,



Truthfully I am running out of room:eek:



I already use and carry UPP, WG and FMJ, the last two being my go to sealants now.



I love the look, ease of use and feeling of the FMJ and the WG and may in the future shelve the UPP also. Blackfire is long gone.



The NXT did good but the longevity of the FMJ and WG beat it out. In fact I did a 99 white E320 on Friday, finished it out with WG after buffing with DACP. Looked and felt great........then all hell broke lose and we had several inches of rain in what seemed like 30 minutes. The doctor left right in the heat of this storm, streets were overflowing with runoff real quick. He pulls up this afternoon and I tell him I will give him a rain check.....and when I look at the car it is hardly even dirty, where's the dirt:nixweiss



I don't know what the deal is, if the WG just kept the dirty water from sticking or what but I was very impressed:up



Anthony
 
how old are you guys, btw?



and anthony - my friend is just a guy with a PC and a lot of experience with menzerna. he does do side jobs here and there with detailing others cars though. :)
 
Anthony-I really like Wolfgang too. Very nice and easy to use two step system that seems very compatible with other product lines (since correcting paint problems is not a function of WG). I've noticed that Meguiars #16, S100 and Poorboy's EX-P are also real good in the rain. Often, if I don't drive my car when it rains, it seems to have washed itself....unless we had strong west winds kicking up west Texas dust ahead of the rain that is.



tuffluck-I will be 43 in less than a month.
 
ok, older than me ;)



maybe different lighting made the swirls appear? i am baffled as to why they weren't even slightly visible under the initial light (even though they were very visible when i pulled up) but visible under a light down the road. am i supposed to not move the car after applying nxt or something? :confused:
 
Certain lighting shows swirls more than other lighting. Correct what you can see in the lighting that makes your car look its worst and you will have no problems in other lighting then.
 
Malachi said:
Accumulator, do you think 1ZEPP is as effective as DACP?
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I'm not all that familiar with DACP, and I might've given up on it too soon- I hate to knock a product, or even comment on it, when I haven't given it a fair chance. And *I* use 1Z's Ultra, I assume that's the same as the 1Z EPP you mentioned....so anyhow...



The 1Z Ultra/Extra will remove marring by hand, but it always leaves its own micromarring that I have to remove with 1Z PP. I've even used it, by hand, to remove fingernail scratches from under door handles on (hard) Audi clear.



Just as some people are big fans of #83 and #82, I'm sold on 1Z's polishes.
 
Tuffluck- The way some things show up in certain light is just the way our eyes work. A good example is how rotary holgrams only show up under natural sunlight. I often end up checking my work under fluorescents, incandescents, halogens, AND sunlight. It can be an incredible pain, but that's the only way I can avoid the kind of surprises you've encountered.



One trick, that's sorta similar to your Albertson's experience, is to turn off all the other lights in the garage, and have someone move a regular, incandescent trouble-light around while you look at the paint from all angles and from varying distances. There might be *just one* perspective that makes marring jump out at you.



Sometimes halogens are so bright they cause such bright reflections that I miss things and I can hardly *ever* see micromarring under fluorescents. But, same old story, other people swear by them...
 
I just noticed with white that the flourescents in my garge did a better job at helping me spot marring than my halogen work lights. On the othert hand, I find the halogens very handy when working with black
 
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