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mxblue23

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I've been reading a lot and doing some studying and now I need the help of the Pros.



I have some surface swirls that I can't remove, I've only tryed the basica megs #2 polish and carnuba wax with a clay bar. My approach is to try a KAOI and KSG... But I don't just want to hide these swirls, i'd like to eliminate them. Would I be better off buying a PC, trying a Megs #9 followed by a KAIO and a a Pinnacle wax? I'm really looking for the 3ft deep wet look on a mild metallic purple paint. I've already ordered the KAIO and SG for my wheels.



The PC kinda scares me but it seems like the ultimate solution to my problems along with making things a LOT quicker.



HELP! ! ! ! ! My swirl marks suck



BTW, is there any way to cure these w/o the PC polisher?
 
Don't be afraid of the PC....it's nearly impossible to burn paint with it. Pick it up, and start polishing! :D
 
You're gonna have to use something more abrasive to eliminate swirls completely if you couldn't get it out by hand with #2. I understand about not getting a PC if it's about being short on cash, but it really is a worthy investment over time.



But if you don't wanna use a PC cause you are afraid you might damage the paint let me help... I recently used a PC for the first time. I was trying to get rid of some very nasty SOS pad type swirls all over a hood. I finally ended up using my most coarse and stiff pad (orange cutting pad) with some Meguiars heavy cut compound. With that combination I could practically turn the speed dial all the way up and put all my weight on the PC in just one spot for over a minute and it still didn't damage the paint (all the swirl marks are gone though). I did this all on a test hood I got from a junkyard just to see if it would cause damage.



It's very hard to damage paint with a PC. At best you would have to use a combination of bad things to damage paint with a PC, such as thin clear coat, improper handling of the PC, etc.
 
Thanks for the info guys, $$$ isn't the problem just my lack of experience, looks like i'll have to order one up and give it a shot. Guess i've heard too many horror stories of people torching the paint on their cars with buffers/polishers.



Spoiled, i'm near Irvine.
 
People torch their paint with rotary polishers. Even then, I've found that to be unusual if you're paying attention.



You'd have to try to mess up your paint with the PC. And even then... I've tried the most aggressive pad/polish combo I could get my hands on and still wasn't able to burn the paint. Soften up the clear, yeah, but that was in full sun with a 6" heavy cutting pad and a heavy polish, PC set at 6 (max speed) and putting my weight into it without moving the polisher. No burn.



Don't fear the PC! :D
 
I firmly believe that the only way to harm your paint with the PC is to throw the machine at the car.



It is completely different than a rotary buffer.



Jim
 
There is one real danger to using a PC -- initial apprehension almost always gives way to satisfaction, pride in results and, if you're not careful, a lifelong, autopian enthusiasm.
 
I'd follow that up with the initial apprehension gives way to initial disappointment because people are working it so carefully... THEN you get the results and satisfaction :)
 
mxblue23 said:
I have some surface swirls that I can't remove, I've only tryed the basica megs #2 polish..Would I be better off buying a PC, trying a Megs #9 ...

BTW, is there any way to cure these w/o the PC polisher?
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Most of what you can do with a PC can be done by hand if you have (near superhuman ;) ) determination and endurance. Get the PC, if anything you'll find it's not aggressive enough for what you need it to do. You *can* damage paint with it, I know people who have and they're not dummies either. But this is *so* unusual that you really don't have to worry about it, especially with the sort of mild products you sound like you'd like to use.



Which #2 are you using? If it's the second step of the Deep Crystal system it's nonabrasive. The #2 Fine Cut Cleaner (newest version, very important to get the new one) is a sorta-aggressive product that would do the job for sure.



The #9 is almost certainly too mild for what you want to do. Don't bother with it. Seriously. If you wan to use a Meguiar's product that's milder than the #2 FCC, get their #80 Speed Glaze. It's still pretty mild but it's a good all-purpose polish.



Most people drastically underestimate how tough it is to remove marring. Don't be afraid to use the right tool/product for the job because otherwise you'll just waste a lot of time and effort.
 
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