Stronger Random orbital ?

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gav'spurplez

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is there a random orbital buffer / polisher like the PC 7424 that has a stronger motor ?



if you apply "some" pressure to the pc, you can hear the motor bog, is there another machine out there ??



i was told pc has one that was rebadged as a dewalt ??



can't remember :nixweiss
 
Dewalt DW443....it has a strong motor from I hear....no bogging...just can not change backing plate...have to use thiers..it is 6 "....



Al
 
How much pressure do you want to put on the machine?



At 5.5 on the dial with enough pressure to compress a Sonus SwirlBuster pad to 75%, the PC is working at an acceptable load and it's getting the pad/polish/paint pretty warm. IMHO, you don't need any more power.
 
interesting comments guys,



thanks for the information, i spoke with gary ( turbomangt ) about it.

reading posts about corvettes and their clear coat, and dealing with that g35 i had a month ago, i just thought maybe something might out perform the PC.



i do not want to apply alot of pressure, and i normally do not apply any ( just enough for a good contact between pad and paint ) and it does the job extremely well :o
 
There is a more powerful RO/DA buffer....it's call the Cyclo. No more fixed pricing either, I paid $212 for mine.



...can't say I am happy about how the power cord holds up on mine though. Looks like I have to send it back again for another power cord. No issues with either the one I borrowed for several weeks a couple years ago or the loaner the distributor I bought mine from so the problem might be my particular Cyclo-but again, my understanding is they are changing cord vendors.
 
Another thumbs up for the Cyclo. I wish I had purchased it years ago. No cord problems with mine yet but it doesn't get the workout that Scottwax's does either.
 
Another option is the dual mode machines like the Makita BO6040, Festool, Dynabrade, etc. A bit more pricey then a cyclo but more versatile.
 
MichaelM said:
Another option is the dual mode machines like the Makita BO6040, Festool, Dynabrade, etc. A bit more pricey then a cyclo but more versatile.
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Can the backing plate be changed on any of these models, because sometime I use 4" pads on Jeeps and other vehicle with a lot of crap on them.
 
RTexasF said:
Another thumbs up for the Cyclo. I wish I had purchased it years ago. No cord problems with mine yet but it doesn't get the workout that Scottwax's does either.
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Another one for the Cyclo - my PC now is used to put glazes on and the Cyclo for paint correction.
 
Scottwax said:
There is a more powerful RO/DA buffer....it's call the Cyclo. No more fixed pricing either, I paid $212 for mine.



...can't say I am happy about how the power cord holds up on mine though. Looks like I have to send it back again for another power cord. No issues with either the one I borrowed for several weeks a couple years ago or the loaner the distributor I bought mine from so the problem might be my particular Cyclo-but again, my understanding is they are changing cord vendors.
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If you take it to a power tool repair shop they can put on a replacement cord with a heavier strain relief...Also..not sure how you store... but wrapping the cord around the body of machine will lessen the life of the power cord by keeping a constant strain on it where it enters the machine. Bettter to use velcro and coil the cord for storage.
 
vwgtivw said:
Can the backing plate be changed on any of these models, because sometime I use 4" pads on Jeeps and other vehicle with a lot of crap on them.
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No, it cannot, though the BP that comes with the machine (Makita at least) fits the 7.5" LC pads perfectly.



With a machine like the Makita there isn't really a need to go to a smaller pad. It doesn't bog, moves faster and has the forced rotation option which is another step above DA but not quite rotary strength.
 
Seems there are some issues with the cords on recent-vintage Cyclos. A guy I know in Cincinnati has problems with his and now ScottWax is having difficulties too. My older one (early-mid '80s) got a lot of abuse when employees at the dealership were using it, but it's original cord is still just fine.



I like the idea of having a long, heavy-gauge cord permanently installed, similar to what Mike Phillips did on one of his rotaries. But in the case of *my* Cyclos, I'm not gonna try to fix something that isn't broken ;)



MichaelM- I dunno...I like using small pads on my rotary for some spots. It's not *just* a matter of using small pads so the PC doesn't bog down. I don't mean that as a slam at the machines you mentioned though; the DyanBrade intrigues me, almost bought one once.



Stumpydetailing- Strangely enough, after all these years of using both I can't say if the Cyclo is louder than the PC :nixweiss If I had to say...then yeah, it makes more noise but it's not objectionable. It probably weighs a little more too (hard to say, neither is heavy enough for me to take notice) but *IMO* the Cyclo handles so much better that it's not an issue anyhow. Even one-handed I greatly prefer using the Cyclo especially for long polishing sessions.
 
What are you doing, standing on the PC ? I can press down on the head VERY firmly, and the PC will take me for a ride before it bogs down to stop results from happening....



Try a few more passes of polish before you go out and buy something else. Also make sure your pressing down on the head and not the handle...
 
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