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Sherman8r44 said:
Yeah, I just posted about the Turtle Wax/Zymol Relationship. In all fairness, Joe.p said that the guy trusts the rep too much. But I really don't like all the stuff about the paint "needing to breathe", and how if you have a Saab, it's the only wax you should use, etc. I think they go overboard.

Okay, maybe we're all a little jealous cuz we haven't tried the stuff and we probably never will...
Sorry about that the last couple of paragraphs were not necessarily directed at you, but were more of a general commentary. However, I think you're again treating misinformation relayed by a customer or salesman of Zymol as information from Zymol. I've never heard from or seen written by Zymol or any representative of the company a claim that the paint needs to "breathe" or that the marque specific waxes are the only wax you should use on that brand of car. The only company I've ever heard of insisting that you use one of their products is Zaino (ex. Z2 Pro must be preceded by an application of Z whatever blah blah blah and mixed with Z whatever blah blah blah).

If it makes you feel better, when I bought my Honda last year I called Zymol to ask which of their waxes they felt I should use. I was thinking maybe I would go out and buy the Japon. They agreed with me until I told them I have some Estate Glazes. At that point they said use the Estate Glazes. So, I guess Estate Glazes trump marque specific waxes in their line up.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not picking on you or anything Sherman. I just want to make sure you have your facts straight.

Anyway, I only still use Zymol on my own car because I really like the results I get. I've use sealants like FMJ and Wolfgang and also other waxes like P21S and the results are not massively different. Most of the look comes from the polishing steps anyway.
 
Joe, cornstarch actually has (can have or had) its place as a booster for weak polishes. Old-school technique, but it is a good polishing agent, therefore you can mix it into glazes, polishes.

However, I can't imagine when would it be needed with today's product ranges.
 
Bence said:
Joe, cornstarch actually has (can have or had) its place as a booster for weak polishes. Old-school technique, but it is a good polishing agent, therefore you can mix it into glazes, polishes.

However, I can't imagine when would it be needed with today's product ranges.
You know i'm kinda of glad to here this. some of the guys at work dismissed the kids claims after the comment he looked a little uneasy. glad to hear other's were familiar with the corn starch .
 
Mikeyc said:
Sorry about that the last couple of paragraphs were not necessarily directed at you, but were more of a general commentary. However, I think you're again treating misinformation relayed by a customer or salesman of Zymol as information from Zymol. I've never heard from or seen written by Zymol or any representative of the company a claim that the paint needs to "breathe" or that the marque specific waxes are the only wax you should use on that brand of car. The only company I've ever heard of insisting that you use one of their products is Zaino (ex. Z2 Pro must be preceded by an application of Z whatever blah blah blah and mixed with Z whatever blah blah blah).

If it makes you feel better, when I bought my Honda last year I called Zymol to ask which of their waxes they felt I should use. I was thinking maybe I would go out and buy the Japon. They agreed with me until I told them I have some Estate Glazes. At that point they said use the Estate Glazes. So, I guess Estate Glazes trump marque specific waxes in their line up.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not picking on you or anything Sherman. I just want to make sure you have your facts straight.

Anyway, I only still use Zymol on my own car because I really like the results I get. I've use sealants like FMJ and Wolfgang and also other waxes like P21S and the results are not massively different. Most of the look comes from the polishing steps anyway.

Hey, no problem. My dad's friend as well as others who called up for info have just spitted out stuff like that to me, and it may be their own faults for misinterpreting the response from Zymol. I know you have a lot of Zymol waxes and products, I've seen some of your work, so obviouisly you have quite a bit of experience with them...
 
Sherman8r44 said:
Hey, no problem. My dad's friend as well as others who called up for info have just spitted out stuff like that to me, and it may be their own faults for misinterpreting the response from Zymol. I know you have a lot of Zymol waxes and products, I've seen some of your work, so obviouisly you have quite a bit of experience with them...
No problem. I've spoken with Zymol on many occasions and have pretty much read their entire website. I've also used a good portion of their product line up. So, I feel like I have a pretty good handle on what their theories are and how their products work. For some reason, Zymol has a tough time getting positive reactions on all the detailing websites I frequent. So, I try to defend them whenever someone gives misleading or incorrect information about Zymol.
 
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