Some advice on 1000P or IW845

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Fallz

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I am almost out of 1000P been extremely happy with the look , and durability , I don't like the drying white and shows every spot ya missed but thats my problem ....lol.



Harsh Wi. winter is on it's was and was wondering about a switch to IW845 or another one of there products that may give the same or better look and durability.



I don't mind using the 1000P paste wax , but naturally using a PC and a liquid would be better / easier .



I will be doing mine and customers cars to handle the winters and still look good after a carwash tunnel as many use that frequently. I also have 2 helicopters to do for Life flight . (new customer )



What are your thoughts between the 2
 
My opinion is that the nod for durability goes to 1000p. Ease of use by a large margin goes to 845. With looks being so subjective, I will say on lighter colors I prefer 1000p and darker colors 845. I have never heard a negative remark concerning durability of 1000p, while 845 durability is both raved about and lamented. I have gotten very good durability from both, but give the nod to 1000p in that area.
 
go with either one with a lean towards 1000. if you put it on with a pc 4" blu pad can't get an y easier.
 
I really like both products, but I do find FK1000P to be a bear to remove. I've applied it twice now and had trouble both times. I applied it much thinner the second time and had better success, but there were still areas where I got it too thick, I guess, and I had to use some FK425 to get it off.



I'm using a foam applicator pad and doing it by hand. Would I have better success with microfiber applicator? Any suggestions beside "do it thinner" because I can't seem to get a very even application and because of this, I end up having areas where it is too thick. I wonder if it's the applicator I'm using? *shrugs*



I really envy those who have no problems with this stuff because I like the look a lot, the slickness is excellent, and it makes keeping the car clean very easy. If the durability is as good as people say, it will be amazing. I just wish I had an easier time with it.
 
loco- A few things you might try to make the FK1000P go easier (I did the Yukon DenaliXL with *six* applications, so I can appreciate the need to make it easy on yourself).



I used a regular foam applicator and I did it by hand.



Try priming the pad carefully. Get a uniform distribution of FK1000P on the pad. Then scrape off/out any excess (I use a plastic razor blade). Remember that you don't need much product on the pad.



Try to exert uniform pressur on the pad so the FK1000P gets used up uniformly.



Reload the pad as needed, but do it carefully; once again priming it evenly and scraping off any excess.



I've sometimes used a little FK425 on the pad if/when the FK1000P in the tin seems very dry.



When buffing off, try fogging the surface with your breath. I find this to be beneficial with pretty much every LSP I use.



I will say that doing the YDXL, while time-consuming, went easy as could be, and I credit the care I took when loading the pad.
 
Accumulator said:
Try priming the pad carefully. Get a uniform distribution of FK1000P on the pad. Then scrape off/out any excess (I use a plastic razor blade). Remember that you don't need much product on the pad.



Try to exert uniform pressur on the pad so the FK1000P gets used up uniformly.
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That sounds like something I need to try. My 1000p is very hard/dry in the tin and I have to move the applicator pad inside the tin a lot to "heat/soften" it up to get any on the pad. Then it seems like it gets too much on it. I always scrape extra off against the edge of the tin, but the plastic razor blade trick seems like a good one to try, because you would indeed get a more uniform distribution..
 
Accumulator said:
loco- A few things you might try to make the FK1000P go easier (I did the Yukon DenaliXL with *six* applications, so I can appreciate the need to make it easy on yourself).



I used a regular foam applicator and I did it by hand.



Try priming the pad carefully. Get a uniform distribution of FK1000P on the pad. Then scrape off/out any excess (I use a plastic razor blade). Remember that you don't need much product on the pad.



Try to exert uniform pressur on the pad so the FK1000P gets used up uniformly.



Reload the pad as needed, but do it carefully; once again priming it evenly and scraping off any excess.



I've sometimes used a little FK425 on the pad if/when the FK1000P in the tin seems very dry.



When buffing off, try fogging the surface with your breath. I find this to be beneficial with pretty much every LSP I use.



I will say that doing the YDXL, while time-consuming, went easy as could be, and I credit the care I took when loading the pad.
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Wow, six applications! Thank you, Accumulator! You certainly should know the tricks. I probably will add another layer when I wash the car next time, and I'll try your suggestions. I never even thought of breathing on the surface, great idea.
 
Accumulator said:
When buffing off, try fogging the surface with your breath. I find this to be beneficial with pretty much every LSP I use.
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LOL, I can imagine the facial expressions of people passing by...
 
skip87 said:
LOL, I can imagine the facial expressions of people passing by...
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Heh heh, yeah...guess I didn't think of that! I'm always working alone in my shop, so nobody's watching (or listening to :o ) anything that's going on.
 
I'm actually doing a direct comparison between the two this winter.

3 coats of 845 on the girlfriend's white civic and and 4 coats of FK on my silver A4 (so I cheated and put on an extra coat on mine).

I believe I've read the FK gives a bit more pop to metallic colors and the 845 a warmer look.

So far they've both been great in keeping the cars shiny after a few rainstorms.

They both bead insanely when standing and fling the beads off as soon as you hit 40.

Time will tell whichever lasts longer.

As for application I found both to be rather bearable.

I guess if you apply by machine, the liquid 845 is easier to use if your pad doesn't fit in the FK tin.

I applied both by hand and didn't find one to be any more difficult than the other.

As everyone else has said, THIN, even coats work best with both.

I have noticed that the missed(removal) spots with FK are MUCH more apparent.
 
I have FK 1000p and like it a lot. I also have both 845 IW and 915 on the way as well.



Lots of comparisons coming up in the next few months....
 
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