So how well does NXT fill ?
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I agree with BW. It did a little to lessen the appearance of scratches, but certainly did not make them invisible to my eye in natural light.
A good run with glaze and carnauba (or certain canaubas alone)often completly hides them from my eyes, but NXT didn't quite make it that far.
A good run with glaze and carnauba (or certain canaubas alone)often completly hides them from my eyes, but NXT didn't quite make it that far.
Mike_Phillips
Administrator
Just to chime in here,
The scratches that Tech Wax fills in, or the very finest of scratches, usually called cobweb-effect, or spider webs.
It doesn't fill in scratches that have any real depth to them.
If the Tech Wax doesn't hide, or lessen the scratches in your finish, then a paint cleaner, or cleaner/polish needs to be used before application.
Surface prep is key to all waxes, including Tech Wax.
What I found when testing this product was that after buffing out a car, either with a PC, or a rotary, if I applied a wax, (ours, theirs, etc.) or polish/glaze and then pulled the car out into the sun, while it looked better, I could still see cobweb-effect.
If I applied Tech wax, it would fill in most of what other products did not.
So you'll always get your bet results by doing a good job of first removing any scratches or swirls first with paint cleaner or cleaner/polish, and then applying the Tech Wax.
The simpleest combination I found was using a polishing foam pad, like our W-8006, on the PC on a setting of around 4.0 to 5.5 and either #83 Dual-Action Cleaner polish, or ScratchX.
To simply wash a car, then apply the Tech Wax will lessen cobweb-effect, but not completely remove cobweb-effect.
But another thing I liked about the Tech Wax is the gloss, slickness, darkness, and reflectivity.
Some of the cars I have applied this to, the paint just comes out looking wet...
Mike
The scratches that Tech Wax fills in, or the very finest of scratches, usually called cobweb-effect, or spider webs.
It doesn't fill in scratches that have any real depth to them.
If the Tech Wax doesn't hide, or lessen the scratches in your finish, then a paint cleaner, or cleaner/polish needs to be used before application.
Surface prep is key to all waxes, including Tech Wax.
What I found when testing this product was that after buffing out a car, either with a PC, or a rotary, if I applied a wax, (ours, theirs, etc.) or polish/glaze and then pulled the car out into the sun, while it looked better, I could still see cobweb-effect.
If I applied Tech wax, it would fill in most of what other products did not.
So you'll always get your bet results by doing a good job of first removing any scratches or swirls first with paint cleaner or cleaner/polish, and then applying the Tech Wax.
The simpleest combination I found was using a polishing foam pad, like our W-8006, on the PC on a setting of around 4.0 to 5.5 and either #83 Dual-Action Cleaner polish, or ScratchX.
To simply wash a car, then apply the Tech Wax will lessen cobweb-effect, but not completely remove cobweb-effect.
But another thing I liked about the Tech Wax is the gloss, slickness, darkness, and reflectivity.
Some of the cars I have applied this to, the paint just comes out looking wet...
Mike
Generally, I never use one-steps as they are intended to be used...alone. Instead I go through my normal routine of several products used in an attempt to perfect the surface before applying the wax/sealant of my choice.
But the lack of time and the weather outside (even if I was working indoors) gave me a good excuse to use the NXT and see how it would perform as a one-step product. The packaging makes no claims of a cleaner/wax but I would assume that the great majority of the buying public will be using this product in the same fashion, as only us Autopians are nuts enough to spend a whole day with our cars, polishing and perfecting.
So my initial reviews are much like a average buyer might experience....which I think is certainly fair. After all, I'm not comparing NXT's job this weekend to my last all out 8-hour detail session results....I'm just talking about what I saw and felt while using it.
That being said, I really enjoyed using it and it produced very nice results considering the time spent working on it. After it cured overnight, I looked as "wet" as my Blackfire and almost as good as S100/Souveran. It worth mentioning that my car is not exactly a neglected car, so the swirls I am talking about above are pretty minor. I am looking forward to warmer weather when I can get out and really have a go at my car and use the NXT in a comprehensive detail, not to mention do further study on durability and appearance over time. Perhaps after that I will be ready to post a more complete review of it.
But the lack of time and the weather outside (even if I was working indoors) gave me a good excuse to use the NXT and see how it would perform as a one-step product. The packaging makes no claims of a cleaner/wax but I would assume that the great majority of the buying public will be using this product in the same fashion, as only us Autopians are nuts enough to spend a whole day with our cars, polishing and perfecting.
So my initial reviews are much like a average buyer might experience....which I think is certainly fair. After all, I'm not comparing NXT's job this weekend to my last all out 8-hour detail session results....I'm just talking about what I saw and felt while using it.
That being said, I really enjoyed using it and it produced very nice results considering the time spent working on it. After it cured overnight, I looked as "wet" as my Blackfire and almost as good as S100/Souveran. It worth mentioning that my car is not exactly a neglected car, so the swirls I am talking about above are pretty minor. I am looking forward to warmer weather when I can get out and really have a go at my car and use the NXT in a comprehensive detail, not to mention do further study on durability and appearance over time. Perhaps after that I will be ready to post a more complete review of it.
imported_memnuts
New member
The filling quality and/or ability of NXT , like Z5, is directly related to the quality of your prep.
Eliminate all but the smallest (spiderwebs) and both products will perform as advertised.
Need more filling ability - stick with carnaubas (oils) and glazes (oils) combos.
Eliminate all but the smallest (spiderwebs) and both products will perform as advertised.
Need more filling ability - stick with carnaubas (oils) and glazes (oils) combos.
GoodnClean
New member
Anything that would really turn your head and make you say "Wow, those are swirls" it isn't going to fill but it will effectively hide micro-marring and lessen the appearance of the deeper swirls. All I have on my car are very minor micromarring and it made it 99% invisible.
I think Z5 is probably a pretty good comparison to make, as it seems like the optics of the product hide the swirls, as opposed to something thick like EX that physically fills swirls in.
I think Z5 is probably a pretty good comparison to make, as it seems like the optics of the product hide the swirls, as opposed to something thick like EX that physically fills swirls in.
Odd I've never experience any swirl filling abilities from S100, it looks identical before and after application. Z5 IMO has less filling abilities than NXT based on my own experience, it didn't do anything for the cobwebs I had and NXT did.
Regardless everyone is right, you can't expect a wax to remove or fill deeper swirls, it will fill them to a degree but most will still be visible to the discerning eye. There's not substitute for good prep.
Regardless everyone is right, you can't expect a wax to remove or fill deeper swirls, it will fill them to a degree but most will still be visible to the discerning eye. There's not substitute for good prep.
andriver
Detailing Hobbyist
Sean, nice clarity on your paint.
Heh, my civic looked like $hit compared to that red car, and the Z5 hid it all... For the life of me, I dunno why people don't have success with Z5??? Nearly everyone one here bashes it's swirl-filling abilities, but to me, it clearly DOES fill swirls and quite effectively I might add.
GoodnClean
New member
The swirling has to be really light. You had buffer holograms which are actually some of the lightest and shallowest marring there is, thats why Z5 was such a success.
Also I think a lot of it comes from the fact that hiding is not the Autopian way, we bash dealers for hiding swirls with glaze etc.
Also I think a lot of it comes from the fact that hiding is not the Autopian way, we bash dealers for hiding swirls with glaze etc.