Six way waterless wash comparison...

I just chose to read the label and you're choosing to read into the label more and I can't deny that it's not a 110% firm ratio if you focus in on the "up to" wording and wonder if that leaves room somewhere for the "perfect" (for lack of a better term) ratio. On the other hand that "up to" can be considered another good thing it has going for it when it comes to a person who doesn't want to just try out some ratios of their own and see if it's ok to increase product amount and by how much and if that streaks or if it works better or if there's no change. Meg's did the tests and said, here's the window you can use that we found works best. Unlike all the others which just say use this, the end.

It is however quite clear (to me at least) that 4:1 is the standard since it's mentioned twice on the bottle and also in the product video done with Mike from Autogeek where the Meg's guys mention it being a 4:1 ratio several times with lesser amounts of product to water being good for hot climates and direct sun where you need more wetness to slow any evaporation.

How to use Meguiar's D114 & D115 Rinse Free Express Wash - YouTube

I know my post count is low and I'm new here but please don't think I'm new to detailing based on that. I started detailing in '97 then from '99 to '05-'06ish (was taking lots of time off, hence the "ish" haha) I did it as my main job but that "ish" came as I got burnt out and ended up quitting detailing as my main job for quite a few years. I got hooked again when I bought my current garage queen and became obsessed with trying new products. Thus why I've been able to do a few comparison reviews on different types of products because I'm having fun comparing products to see what works best for me and that's all it's about. It doesn't matter what other guys use to me it's what works for me that matters (as it should be for every detailer) thus why I followed the bottle labels and compared them that way and didn't take liberties so it would be an even comparison the same as it would if anyone bought the bottles and follow the directions.
 

Okay, I finally got a chance to read the entire review. Very well done !!!



I hope to try D115 at some point.

I have the Pinnacle waterless wash w/ Nuba as well as UWWP. I like the Pinnacle for cleaner cars with coating when I want to add that extra little gloss. I prefer UWWP for cleaning and slightly dirty vehicles. I choose to buy a gallon of UWWP.


 
groebuck said:
Just curious have you ever used Poorboys Spray and Wipe or Duragloss FCS? Those have always been my go tos.
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I posted about 5 or 6 years ago about how I mixed about 15 percent aqua wax with FC&S and it works really well.

Recently I tried the same thing with Poorboy S&W about 15 percent AW makes it add some gloss and protection while cleaning.
 
Poorboy's Spray & Wipe can also be mixed with Poorboy's Spray & Gloss to have a good safe cleaner that also leaves a very nice shine. Nice tip on the AW, I wouldn't have thought of that.
 
RTexasF said:
Poorboy's Spray & Wipe can also be mixed with Poorboy's Spray & Gloss to have a good safe cleaner that also leaves a very nice shine. Nice tip on the AW, I wouldn't have thought of that.
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RT I have used a lot of the spray and Gloss mixed with S&W but the AW will last longer.
Only down side is you will need to make a couple extra swipes with the MF towel to remove because it has more substance than a normal QD.

Since you do commercial work this probably will not interest you because it will take a little longer but on you own vehicle give it a try you just may like it.
I talked to Bill the chemist at Duragloss and he said I could mix it with FC&S in fact the way he talked I think it already has some that is where the shine comes from in the FC&S
 
Todd Helme said:
Great to see you here Shane, how are those product reviews coming?
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I did a review on a couple of the products but didn't get many responses:

http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums...ing-blackfire-wet-diamond-waterless-wash.html

http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums...e-all-n-one-apc-total-eclipse-tire-shine.html

I am actually car shopping right now - had to sell the Ciera. I posted this on Autogeek on 8/6:

So here's the scoop. I was driving the other day and heard a pop. I wasn't sure what it was and nothing seemed out of the ordinary so I kept driving to my destination (first mistake). Everything seemed fine until I got to where I was going and went to back into a parking spot and realized that my steering wheel was really hard to turn. Decided to forego the errands I was going to do and just drive straight to my mechanic. So I'm driving and lights start coming on (battery, temperature, service engine). Temperature gauge is buried in the hot zone and keeps flicking around. Now I'm freaking out and getting really pissed, so I did the dumb thing and just decided to keep going rather than stop and pull over (second really stupid mistake - really wasn't thinking straight at the moment).

I managed to get there (drove 15-20 miles - really don't know how I made it), the engine is smoking and the coolant is boiling like crazy. Turns out, the pulley for the power steering belt broke and fell off and threw the power steering belt off (so neither the alternator nor the water pump was working). Needless to say, my engine is toast and the car is sitting at the mechanic right now and is not drivable.

So, I am borrowing my dad's car right now and figuring out what to do. It's really not worth fixing (probably $2500 - $2800 for a new engine) just to hope it gets me a few more years down the road. So, I may be either borrowing some money from my parents or a bank, and looking for a nice used car either private party or a dealership. Been feeling bummed since yesterday, as I was kinda afraid of this. Pray everything works out and maybe I can find a nice used car for a decent price. Guess a forum name change may be in order, huh?


And posted this on 8/12:


Painful day today. I sold my Ciera to my mechanic. It would have cost me too much to repair it. A used engine would have run about $2300, a new engine closer to $3500-$3800. Only got $350 for it, but I'm out from under it. Apparently he knows somebody who knows a young couple in their church who is struggling to make it, so they are trying to find a cheap car to give them. So if that works out and my mechanic makes a couple hundred bucks, that'll be good. Maybe my car can be of use to somebody else. Guess it's time to go car shopping!



Not sure what I'll be getting yet, but I'm sure whatever it is will need to be detailed. Haven't had a decent "canvas" to use in a while, so some reviews should be forthcoming on the new ride. :bigups
 
Very nice review, XSSIVE!!! I like how you used 6 products and compared them all against each other. I'm just happy I don't have to try CG, Adams or DP. I'm still curious about the Pinnacle though.

I'm glad to see you come up with the same conclusion that D115 is the best waterless wash out of the bunch.
 
TroyScherer said:

Okay, I finally got a chance to read the entire review. Very well done !!!



I hope to try D115 at some point.

I have the Pinnacle waterless wash w/ Nuba as well as UWWP. I like the Pinnacle for cleaner cars with coating when I want to add that extra little gloss. I prefer UWWP for cleaning and slightly dirty vehicles. I choose to buy a gallon of UWWP.
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Thanks. I still think UWW+ and Pinnacle are great and also like Ecosmart RU despite needing a bit extra buffing at the end. I was just after the one I felt was the all around best for me which is the reason I did the test, not so much to review them for everyone else. I wasn't actually going to write it all up but was asked to by a few people I mentioned the testing to so I figured, why not.



Marc08EX said:
Very nice review, XSSIVE!!! I like how you used 6 products and compared them all against each other. I'm just happy I don't have to try CG, Adams or DP. I'm still curious about the Pinnacle though.

I'm glad to see you come up with the same conclusion that D115 is the best waterless wash out of the bunch.
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I started the write up offline keeping notes as I used each product before adding D115 (which I added after I read your review) hence the title being one WW shy in the numbering since I just copied and pasted my offline written text and overlooked that edit...whoops. I asked Todd to change the thread title but he never responded to my PM.

I'd give Ecosmart a shot just for the heck of it if I were you, it's only below Pinnacle and UWW+ in my ranking due to the extra buffing needed at the end due to the extra wax which like I said could be a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it. I've got a full spare 16oz bottle of Ecosmart RU along with 3/4 of a gallon (so I have some to spare haha) and a bunch of Pinnacle concentrate if you want to try them send me a PM and maybe we can work out a trade for something. It would be cool to get another persons take on the others since we seem to agree on D115.
 
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