White95Max
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Setec Astronomy said:
The native milfoils aren't a problem. It's the Eurasian variety that is the problem. Although there is now a hybrid Eurasian/Northern milfoil, which also becomes invasive.
Simple question regarding resumés
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The native milfoils aren't a problem. It's the Eurasian variety that is the problem. Although there is now a hybrid Eurasian/Northern milfoil, which also becomes invasive.
Tasty said:
Nice in theory, but it's rough when the HR department is getting flooded with resumes and there's serious competition for the job. After being out of work for over 2 months, this week, with some prompting from a recruiter at an IT consulting firm, I decided to add detail to my resume to take it from 2 to 4 pages. Basic philosophy seems to be that I need to get as many of my skills and accomplishments in their face right away or I'll get tossed in favor of all the folks who look more impressive on paper. I have a pretty decent batting average once I get to the interview stage, but I'm not getting much in the way of interviews.
Sometimes it's all about who you know. Were you in IT? I have a friend in that field, and it just ain't what it used to be. Seems to be the first place they cut these days. Many resume advice givers say that keeping the resume short and sweet is they way to do it. If openings are getting flooded with tons of resumes are they really gonna take the time to read a 4 pager? Anyway, best of luck in landing a job. I had a buddy go without for about a year a while back and it almost drove him to insanity.
I think it depends, to a degree, on the particular job field. The paper & envelope are probably more of an issue in you're in a business field like advertising, communications, or public relations.
It all starts with the coverletter. THAT'S the hook. The resume's the net you scoop them up with. I've proofed cover letters for friends & co-workers, and am consistently surprised at how poorly some very educated people write. The cover letter is a sales pitch. Though sometimes hard, I try to stay away from the tired cliche phrases like "seek an opportunity to broaden my background & increase my knowledge of..." And of course, always try to put a positive spin on things... you're selling yourself. Be brief, and be honest. Long cover letters will typically go ignored.
I have short and long forms of my resume. In technical fields, they usually want the details, so I give them the 5 page version. Positions like government work & such, they look at educational & work history- that's about it, so they get the short form.
If the resume is well-organized, nicely formatted, concise, & error-free... I doubt they'd give you the boot just because it was printed on 20# inkjet paper & not a tasteful gray linen with a watermark. As for the envelope, I always figured that once it got in the door, some staff flunky would open the mail & then toss the envelope in the trashcan
That said, I can't remember the last time I actually snail-mailed a resume. My last 4 jobs were all paperless, i.e. transacted electronically via e-mail.
It's still a tough market out there though. I was out of work for 10 months in '03/'04. The unemployment ran out after 6 months, and then I started to freak. It's one of the downsides of being specialized, I guess...
It all starts with the coverletter. THAT'S the hook. The resume's the net you scoop them up with. I've proofed cover letters for friends & co-workers, and am consistently surprised at how poorly some very educated people write. The cover letter is a sales pitch. Though sometimes hard, I try to stay away from the tired cliche phrases like "seek an opportunity to broaden my background & increase my knowledge of..." And of course, always try to put a positive spin on things... you're selling yourself. Be brief, and be honest. Long cover letters will typically go ignored.
I have short and long forms of my resume. In technical fields, they usually want the details, so I give them the 5 page version. Positions like government work & such, they look at educational & work history- that's about it, so they get the short form.
If the resume is well-organized, nicely formatted, concise, & error-free... I doubt they'd give you the boot just because it was printed on 20# inkjet paper & not a tasteful gray linen with a watermark. As for the envelope, I always figured that once it got in the door, some staff flunky would open the mail & then toss the envelope in the trashcan
That said, I can't remember the last time I actually snail-mailed a resume. My last 4 jobs were all paperless, i.e. transacted electronically via e-mail.
It's still a tough market out there though. I was out of work for 10 months in '03/'04. The unemployment ran out after 6 months, and then I started to freak. It's one of the downsides of being specialized, I guess...
I'm a technical writer, so it's sorta IT, sorta not. I relax while I'm online, so don't go nit-picking all my posts now, OK? :hide:
The kind of paper I use isn't even part of the picture, it's been forever since I sent out a paper resume. Everyone wants MS Word files nowadays. I just moved to a new city, so I really can't claim to know anyone, but 90% of the work in my field in this state is in this area, so I felt like I had to make the move. My wife just got a job here, but she's not making enough on her own to support the whole family due to the cost of housing here, so I don't have to make something happen soon. I had a phone interview today and recruiters have put my resume in at a couple of other places in the last couple of days, so things are still hopeful.
The kind of paper I use isn't even part of the picture, it's been forever since I sent out a paper resume. Everyone wants MS Word files nowadays. I just moved to a new city, so I really can't claim to know anyone, but 90% of the work in my field in this state is in this area, so I felt like I had to make the move. My wife just got a job here, but she's not making enough on her own to support the whole family due to the cost of housing here, so I don't have to make something happen soon. I had a phone interview today and recruiters have put my resume in at a couple of other places in the last couple of days, so things are still hopeful.