*sigh... Why can't they just listen...

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imported_Neothin

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So I was happily posting away on one of my Scion forums when a thread comes up about a guy getting a brand new tC in the same color as me. He has a question on how to keep the dusting to a minimum. I reply to him saying that a cal car duster if shaken out enough won't scratch, QDing frequently helps, and a properly maintained wax job makes everything easier. So all is good and well until another fellow decides to post:



Poison said:
DO NOT USE ANYTHING OTHER THEN A CHAMOIS!!!! ANYTHING ELSE WILL SCRATCH YOUR PAINT!!!
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so, being an autopian, i offer a correction/suggestion/etc etc



Neothin said:
uhhhh... wrong



if anything, chamois are the worst thing you can put on your paint to dry the car. reason being, chamois have no nap (common word for this is plushness). With no nap, any dirt particles caught between the chamois and the paint have nowhere to go. This means that they will get dragged across the paint. This will cause swirls. I suggest a plush waffle weave microfiber drying towel. the ones from pakshak and exceldetail are excellent.
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his reply:



Poison said:
You obviously don't know crap, thats why you make sure your CHAMOIS IS CLEAN!!
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I know my initial reply to him was a little harsh, but this guy with a new car might listen to this poison guy and start swirling up his brand new tC (which has somewhat soft paint I might add). If you can't tell, I despise chamois. I know some on here use them and use them effectively and safely, but most people would use a chamois like a towel, and wipe across the surface vs the autopian way of laying it on the paint and blotting water up. What can I say to prove my point? I know I shouldn't really care, but the insult to my car care knowledge hit home :furious:
 
don't worry about him or her, us autopians know who's right! i'm sure he/she waxes right after a wash too (probably doesn't clay/polish) lol. sometimes people are one sided and only see gray, not black or white if you know what i mean. ;)
 
As the others above said, I wouldn't worry to much about it. I had a similiar experience on a truck forum i'm on. Someone was asking about a good wax to use and I tried to give a very basic breakdown of the proper steps when another guy kept telling me "his friend" who works at PPG tells him to only polish his car and to stay away from wax. Apparently wax/sealants are bad for the car even after the paint has fully cured. I made a valid rebuttal, but he still insisted I was wrong, so I said whatever and stop posting in the thread.



I guess you can say that guy only likes knowledge derived from experts, which we all know can be very misleading sometimes. :laugh:
 
I've had people like that responding to my posts in other forums as well. I just share my knowledge, and if they want to listen to the other moron, then they can just regret it later.
 
There are a lot of people out there who don't know what they're doing when it comes to detailing. Of course, they think they are experts.
 
With a name like "Poison", do you really want to trust anything he/ she says? :hide:



What forum is this guy on anyway?
 
Yep, there are few things in life that are certain; using chamois' are a no-no, and the Colts are #1 :clap: :woohoo:



I have some folks at work that think fine detailing is taking the extra time to go to the self serve car wash and topping with the multi-color wax foam :nervous:
 
I have the same problem on my other car forums as well. Typically it comes across as people who have a cult following for a certain product and do not realize that there is other stuff to try. Your situation seems worse as that guy is likely to do damage based on the reply from Chamois man.



-GT
 
I use a product called the "absorber" to dry my black car. I'm very careful to do a good wash and rinse. I then lay the absorber and pull it gently across hood, trunk, roof etc. Are you saying that I'm scratching the surface ? If I keep the absorber sealed before and after each use and rinse it before and after, where would the grit come from that can scratch ?
 
As long as u keep "the absorber" clean and without any dirt or particles that can scratch, youll be ok. However, it is very hard to use the absorber without getting a little bit of dirt on it, so you have to be meticulous about keeping it dirt-free. It's easier to use something more plush to dry the car because you don't have to worry as much.
 
You are outside and just finished rinsing your car. Wind blows, crap you can't even see, lands on your car, you drag the Absorber across it: VOILA! Scratch. Happens all the time.



If you are only blotting up excess, that may be ok, but I would use a plush microfiber. In fact, I do use a plush Microfiber, after I blow it mostly dry with a leaf blower.



Of course, this is just my opinion. YMMV



Sam
 
Yes. And if you ever dry the car and accidentally go over a spot that isn't quite as clean as you thought it was, you'll get a little dirt on it. That's all it takes. I doubt your Absorber looks brand new. There's always little dark spots that show up on it after a while. I threw out my chamois (both natural and synthetic ones) after I got a pair of Excel WWs. My dad pulled the chamois out of the garbage for use on his cars. :rolleyes:
 
Where do I buy good microfiber towels ? What are excel WWs ? I like larger towels and noticed that the MFs seem to be small ...
 
excel towels can be had from exceldetail.com... another great MF towel is the pakshak Micropak WW (these are the ones that I use personally). For an OTC product, I think that the meguiar's water magnet is ok. It still leaves microbeads though so I rarely use mine.
 
First that the nozzle off and turn the flow way down. Apply to car to let it sheet the water off 95% of the water standing on your car is gone. Then take a leaf blower to blow excess water off. There goes another 4%. Then take te Absorber to touch up places that are not dry. Good luck....................
 
mpmiller37 said:
Where do I buy good microfiber towels ? What are excel WWs ? I like larger towels and noticed that the MFs seem to be small ...
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Almost all of the suppliers have larger towels too, especially waffle weave (WW), which are particularly popular for drying.



You'll find a number of suppliers mentioned often around here like Autopia, Better Car Care, Pakshak, TOL (Top Of The Line), Exceldetail, Microfibertech and many others.





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