Shampoo for a more deep clean not a normal maintenance wash

Accumulator said:
Is the Meguiar`s Hyper Wash as gentle on LSPs as the 3D Pink (which seems to have *zero* effect on mine)?
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Not entirely sure, mainly because whenever I wash I do a pre-treatment that cuts through any road film, I like to get as much dirt off the surface as possible, before a touch wash, even if I degrade the LSP. So, whether or not it is *safer* doesn`t really matter to me because I degrade it anyways, I just reapply the LSP more often or use a QD detailer as a sacrificial layer.
 
TheMeanGreen said:
Not entirely sure.. whether or not it is *safer* doesn`t really matter to me because I degrade it anyways, I just reapply the LSP more often or use a QD detailer as a sacrificial layer.
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OK, understood. Maybe somebody else will chime in about it; I`m *NOT* reLSPing mine even annually if I can help it, although it wouldn`t be an issue on my wife`s A8 as long as I`m just OCWing it.
 
I love and have switched to The Wax Shop Cherry Snow Foam. It`s cleaning properties are amazing! When used in a foam gun or cannon, the foam literally pulls dirt off of the surface and suspends it in the foam. It is also super slick.
 
Astouffer512 said:
Do these scented soaps actually make a vehicle smell better or is it more a hype / air freshener if you`re washing in a garage?
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I`ve never had any soap`s scent linger on the vehicle (that I noticed), but I wouldn`t want to smell it the whole time I was washing or have the shop smell like that (remember that I use a *lot* of shampoo mix).
 
That is one of the reasons I like Meg`s Detailer Line D110 Hyper-Wash concentrate; it does not have a noted scent. It DOES clean and it DOES suds/foam really well.

Scents in car wash soaps are kind of a misnomer, unless they are trying to mask/hide the "industrial" scents from its content chemicals that make up the soap. I can see that if they try to invoke some "pleasant" scent in the mind of the buyer/user, like bubble gum, but I don`t buy a soap because it smells so good I want to drink it or it makes my vehicle smell like a flower garden or perfume shop. I am waiting for some car-care manufacturer to add laundry detergent Gain scent to its car wash soap!!

As a side note, are any of you Autopians fragrance-sensitive?? My wife is and cannot go down a scented candle isle or a laundry detergent isle without having those scents invoke a headache when she smells certain scents or fragrances.

Some here said Megs new Detailer Line D113 Citrus Wash and Wax soap citrus notation is not for its citrus cleaning power, but for its pleasant citrus smell. I like citrus oils for its natural cleaning, but some say it dries out paint oils. Not sure if that is true. It sure dies out/chaps unprotected hands if you do not wear rubber/nitrile gloves. I do know that Megs Detailer Line D107 Citrus Power Cleaner Plus (the product that was suppose to replace the much-loved but discontinued APC+) is not available any longer. I had heard that some of the chemicals used in its formulation were no longer available, hence its discontinuance.
 
I dunno if we have different versions, but my HyperWash sure does have a scent. Smells like one of those "fresh" scents. Close to Gold Class but not the same.
 
The Hyperwash that I have used has a scent akin to Gold Class, as well. Honestly, I am not one to let the scent of a product stop me from using it, if it is indeed a good product. However, I will say that I wish there were more detailing products without artificial scents or colors.
 
Lonnie said:
... some say [citrus-based cleaner] dries out paint oils. Not sure if that is true..
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Paints haven`t had "oils" since *really* old-tech lacquers (and probably enamels, although I never experienced anything to confirm that), the ones where "feed the paint" wasn`t just marketing BS, so that shouldn`t be a concern. There *are* things on today`s cars that you don`t want to dry out, but that shouldn`t really be an issue unless doing something extreme all the time.

I am waiting for some car-care manufacturer to add laundry detergent Gain scent to its car wash soap!!
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Heh heh, just wait, somebody probably will! Seems like *everything* comes with Gain Scent nowadays!
 
Plastizers are an acid based additive in today`s modern paint system. There are NO oils as such present, only highly refined, special hydrocarbon solvents. Use of high alkaline cleaners attack and remove a percentage of the plastizers. The plastizers provide brightness of color and some flexibility to the paint. One can see the result of applying a high caustic alkaline product to the paint as it will start to appear "dull".
There is of course, more to this, however is very involved and highly technical, and do not wish to spend hours attempting to explain further.
 
Ron Ketcham said:
.. Use of high alkaline cleaners attack and remove a percentage of the plastizers. The plastizers provide brightness of color and some flexibility to the paint. One can see the result of applying a high caustic alkaline product to the paint as it will start to appear "dull"..
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I`m guessing that "highly alkaline" in this sense means something more potent than people here are likely to try on a regular basis...like, I`m assuming something in the ph range of "A" is still OK, right?
 
Notice the use of "B" is the second step of the ABC system, in addition to removing ferrous particles, it replaces the plastizers removed by the alkaline "A" product. You may have noticed that often, when all "3" of the system is used, the surface will often appear to be just waxed. So-don`t try and cheat the system with using some other soap or such, follow the directions that have been in place for over 24 years, and has been successful on millions of vehicles all over the world.
 
Ron Ketcham said:
Notice the use of "B" is the second step of the ABC system, in addition to removing ferrous particles, it replaces the plastizers removed by the alkaline "A" product...
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Ah, OK...I didn`t know that, must`ve glossed over that part of the Product Info as I assume it was mentioned.

You may have noticed that often, when all "3" of the system is used, the surface will often appear to be just waxed. So-don`t try and cheat the system with using some other soap or such, follow the directions .
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My ears are burning over that "don`t cheat by using another soap", guilty as charged :o
 
I had to fight to keep the system from being packaged in small sizes for the DYI folks as knew most would never actually read and follow directions. Result would be tons of `````ing, etc for a very small amount of product sales volume vs the market it is intended for.
 
That’s why the majority of DIYers decontaminate by using IronX and similar chemicals and resorting to mechanical decontamination and polishing.
 
Ron Ketcham- Understood, don`t want amateurs messing up ABC`s sterling reputation by proving it`s not really bubba-proof (says the guy who did indeed use a different soap as the last step one time).
 
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