Sealants as a base for carnubas

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cptzippy

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I guess the first question for those who like to use carnuba waxes is DO you use a sealant under them?



If you do, what do you use? Anything work really well? Not at all?



I have Optiseal (which I plan to primarily use on my wife's car) and Prima Epic (which if it is a good choice I could use up since I've had it since 2007).



TIA,

Tony
 
I usually use an AIO under a carnauba. ZAIO and DG501 are some I really. KSG is another solid option.
 
Same as Dan - if I don't use a pre-wax cleaner, I'll use an AIO (usually KAIO) before applying my carnaubas. Not really into layering waxes over sealants.
 
captzippy- I generally use *something* under (or maybe I should say "before") my LSPs, but I don't really do the "sealant topped with carnauba" thing.



With all the different sealants out thesed days it's easy to find one that looks like/mimics carnauba, so I have to have a pretty good reason to use a wax instead.



Are you thinking about the XJS? My Crown Vic is a total POS cosmeticaly speaking, yet the white paint is *so* forgiving of [everything] that I plan to use FK1000P on it, just so it's easy to clean and stays nice for a long, long time without my having to mess around with it.



Now, if you want to think the Jag is more special that that (which I could sure understand!), then maybe something from Collinite would be like a sealant and a wax both (best of both).



But in any case, I'd try to use something durable. "Do as I say, not as I do" says the guy who uses Souveran over SRP on *his* JXS!
 
@Accumulator: Yes I'm thinking about the XJS. I can't go to the route that you do on yours because I drive mine everyday but I want to preserve the original paint as long as possible. I'm going to keep using the ONR and all the OPT stuff on my wife's MDX as a type of experiment to see how it holds up.



I've got a lot of Prima stuff (hydro, epic, amigo, banana gloss) and thinking about using it on the Jag until I'm done with it and make a choice after that.
 
I use the LSP I think looks best on a particular color and use it as often as needed. Only time I do any topping anymore is when a customer specifically requests it.
 
I use to layer quite a bit when I first started "Autopian-level" detailing. It was either:

- KAIO, KSGx3, S100

- KAIO, WGx3, Souveran



Now, I fall on the side that a sealant base / carnauba LSP is a little over-rated. There are so many great looking, durable products that can stand on their own that I really can't see the value of sealant/carnauba layering. I will admit there is a therapeutic quality when it comes to putting on another layer of LSP...



These days, I still like using KAIO because of it's cleaning prowess - However, any pre-wax cleaner would fit the bill here. Based on paint color and durability requirements, I will choose an LSP.
 
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