I would try zaino product on my dad's truck (2005 black frontier), car never been treated. The paint is really bad, alot of swirl marks, water spots, spots. Any zaino expert out there? Which products should I buy and steps should I take? Any recommendation on other products for heavy sealant, please advice
sealant truck with zaino
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wannafbody
wannafbody
I'd reccomend Clay for cleaning and ZPC for swirl removal by PC. Z5pro is great on darker colors and Z2pro on lighter colors. ZFX is also needed for the first coat of selant.
wannafbody
wannafbody
ret said:
That might have been true in the past but Z5pro will fill in minor imperfections
wannafbody said:
>>>>The paint is really bad, alot of swirl marks, water spots, spots.
This doesn't sound to me like a job for Z5pro....on lighter color cars, yes 3+ coates of Z5pro may hide some micro marring, however I'm willing to bet that most Autopians would be disapointed with Z5pros "filling" qualites on a lightly preped black finish with water spots and swirl marks.
Don't get me wrong...I like the look and durabilaty of Z5pro, I use it myself and even prefer it's look to Z2pro on dark colors....but as far as filling any minor imperfections.....I'm less than impressed.
RET
imported_DennisH
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ret said:
I agree, even some of the best glazes won't touch water spots much less Z5Pro. I would use a multi step polish like IP/FP rather than ZPC. You will probably need a little more cutting power than ZPC and FP I think finishes better than ZPC. On black I get the same results as Sal Zaino with ZPC leaving hazy surface.
To me it sounds like you need more than Zaino. You probably need to clay then use something like Menzerna Advanced Swirl Remover Kit http://www.properautocare.com/menpolandpad.html
Remember prep is the key here. You have to get the paint corrected before you apply any kind of final product. Use the above then evaluate your paint job. Something like AIO might be better than Zanio at this point. But if you get the paint in good shape go for the Zaino. Good luck.
Remember prep is the key here. You have to get the paint corrected before you apply any kind of final product. Use the above then evaluate your paint job. Something like AIO might be better than Zanio at this point. But if you get the paint in good shape go for the Zaino. Good luck.
Part 2... Then you might want to got to Menzerna Car Care Kit. FMJ is a good sealant.
http://www.properautocare.com/mecarcakit.html IMHO ...... Zoom-Zoom
http://www.properautocare.com/mecarcakit.html IMHO ...... Zoom-Zoom
Dan
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zpc will do a decent job on swirls, especially if you are working by hand. If you have products, why not try them and tell us what you didn't like about them and then you might get some better advice.
wannafbody
wannafbody
ZPC is fairly agressive and can remove 1500 sanding marks with the right pad and machine
wannafbody
wannafbody
you need to clay first to remove imbedded stuff that prime won't. Z5pro is a very durable sealant with slight filling ability. You can use prime as a base but it really isn't neccessary if you use ZPC as a swirl remover. Prime isn't aggressive enough to really remove swirls.
gmblack3a said:
In another thread I had the following to say about this:
I've read this statement off the Zaino site in a few threads and I just dont' get it. Shouldn't a correctly polished surface look good without the LSP?
If there is hazing and micromarring before the Z2 or Z5 is applied won't it be visible again after the LSP wears away? I thought the point of Z2 and Z5 was to protect a properly prepared surface, not hide an improperly prepared one. I'm a big fan of Zaino, but if ZPC is going to cause these problems I doubt I'll ever use it.
I didn't receive much feedback but my position still stands. Shouldn't a properly prepared surface look good without the LSP? People here don't accept a bad finish from other polishes, why should ZPC be viewed differently?
Mike
mbkintner said:
Very well put Mike, I agree 100%. :2thumbs:
The Zaino line-up offers some quality products, some are thought to be the "bench-mark" for their product group, and some have weaknesses that aren't always accepted or overlooked by everyone...just because it's a Zaino product.
RET
imported_DennisH
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ret said:
Well said!! :2thumbs:
wannafbody
wannafbody
mbkintner said:
First- Sal didn't invent ZPC to replace your favorite polish. if you have a polish that works killer on your paint stick with it-just use a ISO wipedown. I've had very good results with ZPC but I plan on testing some Menzerna FP2 to see if there is any noticable difference.
2nd- ZPC does what many other polishes don't- it cleans paint really well.
3rd- with the right pad and very little ZPC really good results can be achieived.
4th-the issue might be more of a paint issue than a ZPC issue-some paints are just very soft-even foam pads can leave micromarring.
wannafbody said:
A - Using what works for you = good sound advice
B - Why would ZPC clean better than any other polish that has comparable abrasiveness and provides a comparable finish?
C - Quite possible.
D - This is where I disagree. If the goal is to produce a good finish prior to the LSP then Sal shouldn't be suggesting that the LSP be the solution to haziness. If in fact, ZPC doesn't work well with some paints then the suggestion should be to try an alternative product that does, then use Z2 and/or Z5.
Mike