Sealant or Wax on New Paint.

[imported_Blake]

Bingo! Body shops repaint cars with trim, rubber and everything else that is in place. In the factory they are painted before assembly. They cure from the high temps.

Cars coming out of a body shop require time to cure.

 

[gocubbies]

I suppose that's true ... my statement assume new vehicle with factory paint. Your situation is basically a repaint and then I'd follow those guidelines.

the problems is the dealership never knows it was repainted there for can not tell the customer that it is a repaint. when brand new cars need to be repaired they come straight from shipping yard before dealership even knows they are here

 

[stiffdogg06]

Lots of body shops have what you might call an oven, but the difference (as some have mentioned) is they aren't nearly as hot as what they can use at a factory on a bare car/panels.



The ovens I have seen recently are incorporated in the paint booth and are mainly used to kick start the curing process. I was only painting a set of fenders and a hood at the time, and even though the booth we used had the oven feature it didn't get all that hot. With a complete car in there too much heat would destroy the tires, rubber stripping, and interior components.



Hey stiffdogg06, you ever eat a Massey's Pizza up there in Columbus? That's where I grew up and it's still my favorite pizza.

Yes, I do. :chuckle: Where in the Columbus area did you live?



- Andrew

 

[Eliot Ness]

Yes, I do. :chuckle: Where in the Columbus area did you live?



- Andrew

The east side, fairly close to Whitehall. Just about everyone I know has moved out to Reynoldsburg, Pataskala, or somewhere else in the area. One of my best friends now lives just a few blocks from the Reynoldsburg Massey's so I'm all set when I visit them :grinno:

 

[Bert]

all body panels are on the car and that is it. the is gutted. which is why the factory can bake them at 500 degrees and not melt anything. after the paint is on then they get stuffed with everything

I figured that much. However, it seems I have seen videos of the Ford Truck Plant and Ford Explorer Plant in Louisville, KY where there are times when body panels would being painted individually not attached to the car and other cases where the panels were being painted while on the car. Not sure why differences. Similar to the Camry plant in Georgetown, KY. I have no idea how they do Corvettes in Bowling Green, KY since much of their bodies are made of fiberglass (or atleast they used to be). You bake those at 500 degress F and the fiberglass would melt.

 

[gocubbies]

I figured that much. However, it seems I have seen videos of the Ford Truck Plant and Ford Explorer Plant in Louisville, KY where there are times when body panels would being painted individually not attached to the car and other cases where the panels were being painted while on the car. Not sure why differences. Similar to the Camry plant in Georgetown, KY. I have no idea how they do Corvettes in Bowling Green, KY since much of their bodies are made of fiberglass (or atleast they used to be). You bake those at 500 degress F and the fiberglass would melt.

i should not have used 500 degrees cause i honestly dont know what they bake them at. sorry if that confused anyone

 

[Eliot Ness]

i should not have used 500 degrees cause i honestly dont know what they bake them at. sorry if that confused anyone

Depending on the paint it is (according to one source I've read) either "265-285 degrees farenheight for about 20-30 minutes" or "140-165 degrees for about 30-40 minutes".



The following link has info that some of you might find interesting (or incredibly boring):



OEM Auto Paint Finishes

 

[stiffdogg06]

The east side, fairly close to Whitehall. Just about everyone I know has moved out to Reynoldsburg, Pataskala, or somewhere else in the area. One of my best friends now lives just a few blocks from the Reynoldsburg Massey's so I'm all set when I visit them :grinno:

I guess I need to update my location. I currently moved into a new apartment in New Albany. I use to live with my mom down by winchester pike between Groveport and Canal.

 

[mfewtrail]

What about products such as those made by Presta? Their Presta Fast wax states it can be used on "fresh" and "cured" paint alike. Here's a direct quote from a description of the Fast Wax. "Beautifies and protects both fresh and cured auto finishes with a special oil-free, breathable silicone resin which is safe for body shop use. Wipes off easily without dust or mess:

 

[Junebug]

When I worked at a bodyshop back in the late 70's, we had a guy stop by and ask if we could "dip" his car - like we had a big vat of paint to lower it into! Back on topic, I've had several new cars over the last few years and the day I get them home, they get washed, clayed, and waxed.

 

[sspeer]

I just had a panel repainted and they told me no wax for 60 days.

 

[Patman]

It could hinder the paint from curing properly and you might wind up with softer than normal paint to deal with.

Would that be such a bad thing though? The clearcoat on my Corvette is rock hard, making it a long process to remove imperfections, so I wouldn't mind it if I had softer paint.

 

[jimmie jam]

I have no idea how they do Corvettes in Bowling Green, KY since much of their bodies are made of fiberglass (or atleast they used to be). You bake those at 500 degress F and the fiberglass would melt.

i have been to BG on two different occasions to watch my 07 C6's being built. watched the complete process EXCEPT the paint. this area is off limits due to EPA and contamination issues. i did see them come out of paint though. the bodies are painted on a rack, unassembled but in the position on the car. rear and front fascia are not painted at that time. mirrors are painted at the vendor plant and shipped to the factory painted. i do not believe that the paint is "baked". it may be heated with lamps thought. the new generation corvettes are not the "true" fiberglass of the past where they did things like bonding 3-4 pieces together (front fenders). the body is a composite, heat formed "plastic" that is much thinner and lighter.



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today's factory paint (clearcoat) is a two part urthane (sp) so it is a chemical reaction that cures the paint not necessarily time. FYI, this has been discussed to exhaustion on the corvette forums. generally speaking the "factory" paint is as hard as it's going to get when the car is assembled. and, corvette clear is HARD. :2thumbs:

 

[Eliot Ness]

Would that be such a bad thing though? The clearcoat on my Corvette is rock hard, making it a long process to remove imperfections, so I wouldn't mind it if I had softer paint.

On a new car you really won't have the problem since the paint is pretty much cured when you get it. If you ever have your Corvette repainted the repaint will not be as hard as the factory Corvette clear. It's that paint that you want to let cure fully before sealing or waxing.

What about products such as those made by Presta? Their Presta Fast wax states it can be used on "fresh" and "cured" paint alike. Here's a direct quote from a description of the Fast Wax. "Beautifies and protects both fresh and cured auto finishes with a special oil-free, breathable silicone resin which is safe for body shop use. Wipes off easily without dust or mess

I have no idea about those claims. That's something you'd have to decide on or do some more research on that product. Presta might be able to give you more insight if you contacted them.

i have been to BG on two different occasions to watch my 07 C6's being built. watched the complete process EXCEPT the paint...........

..........today's factory paint (clearcoat) is a two part urthane (sp) so it is a chemical reaction that cures the paint not necessarily time..............

That'd be pretty cool watching your Corvettes being built!



Not sure at all if the Corvettes are baked or heated in some way. The chemical reaction is used in all current paints (that I know of anyway) via the catalyst or hardener that has to be mixed in. From my understanding that jump starts the curing process that will continue until the paint is fully cured (in a typical repaint). It's entirely possible that the Corvette plant is using something that cures much faster w/o needing the traditional heating process. Due to the EPA and cost cutting from the factories new paints and processes are probably coming out all the time that we're slow to hear about.

 

[Fly Bye]

Aren't they baked in the dealers ovens?:nixweiss

Auto dealers have oven's