Rinseless washing as safe as traditional bucket?

If I need to, I do a pre-rinse, then proceed with a rinseless wash - with the gritty particles off the paint because of the pre-rinse, leaving behind just road film, I feel that a rinseless wash is just a safe as a conventional one, and I find that it takes less effort for me to do a rinseless.
 
This is a good, informative discussion but it abandons the sole purpose of the rinseless wash, no hose, no wasted water.
You can conserve water and still get your vehicle beautifully clean!
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You lose your gold star for environment protection when you power wash or use a car wash to pre-rinse. Read the marketing hype for more claims.

I gleaned from the discussion that the conventional wash, which is all I do, is the best wash for a car that leaves the garage everyday or sits outdoors all year long.

Bobby and Bunky lead everyone right back to the expected conclusion: A conventional wash is the safest, surest way to avoid paint damage when washing any vehicle (except a garage queen). Thank you. Now I know I'm doing it the right way.

Aside from that, adding a rinseless wash to conventional wash may help, but it adds to the cost of the wash and I'm willing to say you'll not notice a difference.

Removing a few specks of dust in Florida is a far cry from the salt brine in Cleveland.
 
The only thing I use these for is in the door jambs, trunk, under hood etc. What I'd really like to try is a foam cannon. I'm still behind the times.
 
Yes mjlinane a pre-soak is a little different than a pre-rinse, no problems, i get what your saying now. I agree Mr. Gloss i still think the traditional wash is the safest way to go when you have the option.
 
Also think needs to be said, if you, like me, live in an area where we are under perpetual water restrictions, you need to learn how to rinseless correctly and resign yourself to washing more frequently - before the car gets too dirty to safely wash this way.
 
The only use I see on the exterior for me is a very light maintenance wash. Knocking off a light dust in the summer time etc.
 
Washing before it gets too dirty is the easiest way but what about after a few days of rain? I know that only happens a couple times a year in TX but never the less it does happen.
 
rzatch said:
Washing before it gets too dirty is the easiest way but what about after a few days of rain? I know that only happens a couple times a year in TX but never the less it does happen.
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I rinseless wash every time it rains on the car. We had our rainy season last month where it rained 3 straight days and washed every one. (Yes, I need help - or so everyone tells me.)

I've come to the conclusion that rain/waterspots and bird bombs are the things to be avoided. Even my coatings will not make me totally immune.
 
Bunky said:
From what I have seen so far, the view is that a soap offers more lubricity but the key characteristic is that the suspended dirt (what is not picked up in the mitt) is rinsed away as opposed to being removed through the wiping process of a rinseless wash.

So it seems many would say if you used a rinseless product exactly like the traditional soap, they do not believe it is as safe.
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I would say that the solution in a rinseless wash offers more protection but the ability to flush the dirt away with water in a soap solution offers more protection against heavy grit.

Using a rinseless wash like a car soap, ie, agitate with a soft towel and rinse away, would work great and be as safe, if not safer, then a purely surfactant based car soap.

Where it gets dicey is most car soaps are going to have some level of polymers, silicones, waxes, or other lubricants in the solution and work perfectly well for their intended purposes. I am not sure if I know of anything, minus the discontinued Meguiars M00, that doesn't have something in it to aid in the gloss enhancement and encapsulation of dirt.
 
They both have their strong arguments. Back to what I said earlier when going traditional. Read the labels and use a good quality soap and you should be fine.
 
rzatch said:
They both have their strong arguments. Back to what I said earlier when going traditional. Read the labels and use a good quality soap and you should be fine.
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Combine this with good procedure (two buckets, quality towels and wash media) and I would agree. There is no right or wrong answer, just discussion for the sake of enlightenment!
 
Yes it was a good discussion. Lots of opinions and concerns talked about. But more important, lots of good information shared also.
 
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