Requesting Assistance - Meguiar's D151 + Rupes Pads For Correction

[Zelfiris]

Hi Everyone,


 


I'm using Rupes' system and I purchased D151 in hope of offering one step polish to a few friends but I cannot seem to get any correction with Rupes pads + D151. 


 


I'm using Rupes 15ES and Rupes Mini as the polishers and I own the following pads:


 


Rupes Blue MF pads


Rupes Green Foam pads


Rupes Yellow Foam pads


Rupes White Foam pads


 


My test subject is a 2013 Hyundai genesis coupe in red


 


I tried Rupes Green Foam pads + D151 and Rupes Yellow Foam pads + D151. In both cases I did not see a difference after 6-8 passes. In fact, with Rupes Green Foam pads + D151 I actually instilled micro-marring on the paint. 


 


On the other hand, with Rupes Green Foam pads + Rupes White Diamond Polish I can knock out the minor swirls but not the slightly deeper scratches. I actually stepped up to Rupes Blue MF pads + Rupes Zephir Compound for slightly deeper scratches.


 


My technique with the foam pads is I would prime the pad with product then spread it slightly on the section I'm working on then set the polisher speed to 6 and move my arms about an inch per second. 


 


What am I doing wrong or what else can I try to get some results with D151? I had always thought D151 has more cut than M205 and that Rupes White Diamond Polish was similar in cut to M205. Hmm..


 

 

[Dellinger]

I think your biggest obstacle is the "red" base color... especially if it is non-metallic.


 


IMO, You will be hard pressed to get any AIO to finish well on a non-metallic base color in black/red while targeting mild defects.


 


6-8 passes is overworking D151 in my experience... I'm surprised you are not complaining about dust.


 


I also find that AIOs/D151 perform better (for me) with the use of a traditional D/A... I.E.- added pressure seems to benefit the cut/finish greatly.


 


The only AIO I will use with a Rupes machine is HD Speed... but I haven't used this combo on a solid base color either.


 


When using 151 I tend to...


"Get in and Get out" with 151... spread quickly @ speed 3, one pass @ speed 4-5, two passes tops.  


Clean on the fly after completing a section or every other at the very least.  


Use ample product.  


Change pads often... AIOs tend to clog pads quickly even when cleaning them often


B&S Green or LC Pink are the pads I prefer for AIO use... no experience with the Rupes pads.


 


You would probably better served by a dedicated polish and LSP, if the base color is indeed non-metallic.  


 


If you are not getting paid for the time/ don't have the time to do a 1-step and LSP, then keep playing with the pads and your technique. I think you may be asking a little much of 151 given the desire of notable defect removal and finishing perfectly.  You can probably choose one in this scenario...and it's probably not going to be finishing perfectly.


 


Regards,


-Gabe

 

[BobD]

Honestly for all of that work you are doing you'd be better off just doing an actual 1-3 step polish with a topper.  D151 isn't really a "corrective" type of product in my opinion.

 

[Zelfiris]

I think your biggest obstacle is the "red" base color... especially if it is non-metallic.


 


IMO, You will be hard pressed to get any AIO to finish well on a non-metallic base color in black/red while targeting mild defects.


 


6-8 passes is overworking D151 in my experience... I'm surprised you are not complaining about dust.


 


I also find that AIOs/D151 perform better (for me) with the use of a traditional D/A... I.E.- added pressure seems to benefit the cut/finish greatly.


 


The only AIO I will use with a Rupes machine is HD Speed... but I haven't used this combo on a solid base color either.


 


When using 151 I tend to...


"Get in and Get out" with 151... spread quickly @ speed 3, one pass @ speed 4-5, two passes tops.  


Clean on the fly after completing a section or every other at the very least.  


Use ample product.  


Change pads often... AIOs tend to clog pads quickly even when cleaning them often


B&S Green or LC Pink are the pads I prefer for AIO use... no experience with the Rupes pads.


 


You would probably better served by a dedicated polish and LSP, if the base color is indeed non-metallic.  


 


If you are not getting paid for the time/ don't have the time to do a 1-step and LSP, then keep playing with the pads and your technique. I think you may be asking a little much of 151 given the desire of notable defect removal and finishing perfectly.  You can probably choose one in this scenario...and it's probably not going to be finishing perfectly.


 


Regards,


-Gabe

 


 

Honestly for all of that work you are doing you'd be better off just doing an actual 1-3 step polish with a topper.  D151 isn't really a "corrective" type of product in my opinion.

 


 


Thanks for the feedback guys. I guess I'm really trying to justify my purchase by finding a use for D151


 


What are you guys using D151 for? Maybe I should dedicate it to my exterior detail package (wash, clay, and seal with D151 by DA)

 

[Dan]

Honestly for all of that work you are doing you'd be better off just doing an actual 1-3 step polish with a topper. D151 isn't really a "corrective" type of product in my opinion.

I agree. D151 is great for waking up beat up finishes but I wouldn't use it for correction. Power finish was supposed to be great for 1 steppers but it was a pita to work with. UNO is great but leaves a bit of haze unless you switch pads at which point you might as well use HD polish.

 

[Junebug]

The D151 experience I had was so good - I sold the bottle to a buddy that liked the stuff. I was trying to 1 step a black VW Jetta, and I thought it just needed a little polish, looked good that night I finished - but next day - out in the sun and it looked like crap! There were these wax like halograms where I didn't get all of the D151 off. I was lucky they came off with some quick detailer and a lot of muscle and it was BEFORE I waxed it.

 

[Zelfiris]

I agree. D151 is great for waking up beat up finishes but I wouldn't use it for correction. Power finish was supposed to be great for 1 steppers but it was a pita to work with. UNO is great but leaves a bit of haze unless you switch pads at which point you might as well use HD polish.

 


In your opinion what color do you think is 'acceptable' to use D151 on a beat up paint? Thanks for the hint about the other products


 


Like your suggestion, I continued polishing the car yesterday with HD Polish and almost done. I guess my D151 will go hibernate on a shelf

 

[Dan]

In your opinion what color do you think is 'acceptable' to use D151 on a beat up paint? Thanks for the hint about the other products



Like your suggestion, I continued polishing the car yesterday with HD Polish and almost done. I guess my D151 will go hibernate on a shelf

I find its perfect for whites, silvers,etc but again, to make things look better, not perfect. Think grandmas car.