Replacement/Substitutes for Four Star UPP Spray and UGE?

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It seems they’ve discontinued Four Star’s Spray Sealant and Ultimate Gloss Enhancer, or at least replaced them with different products.



Besides using them on the S8’s paint, I also use these products on various textured and smooth black plastic items. I simply loved the idiot-proof nature and extreme slickness of these products.



So...what can I use in place of them? Non-staining is absolutely essential, as is W-O-W-O/W-O-W-A application. No, I don't want to use KSG for this.



I still have some of the old Four Star stuff, so this isn't critical yet, but I figure I'd better start thinking about substitutes sooner rather than later.
 
Bilt-Hamber Auto Balm does not stain trim, it actually protects and darkens it. It is not WOWO but close to it. You work is smaller sections, I usually do a panel then buff it off and it comes off easily. However, if you do let it sit too long it will get harder.



It lasts about 6 months and has very good swirl-filling capacity.
 
I have never used the Spray Sealant, and only used my UGE a few times, but off the top of my head, it would seem that DG AquaWax and Zaino Z-8 would be obvious choices. You could also try Sonus Acrylic Glanz and Acrylic Spritz, and there are the Jeff's Werkstatt products.



Of course, you could just email Rick Vaal and ask him what he recommends as a replacement: Four Star Products, Inc.
 
I have used and use both OOS and OCW on black trim. I also use DG AW on trim.



I have had no problems with any of these products...
 
Another suggestion to add to the list would be Blackfire's spray sealant. Looks are on par with Z8 and application is a breeze. I know you have very particular looks you like to achieve on a paint by paint basis so I will throw out the caveat that it may darken the paint a bit (It has been awhile since I last used it).
 
Thanks, I appreciate all the responses.



Some of the areas I'm thinking about don't really lend themselves to any significant buffing, so the closer to W-O-W-A the better. There will be areas where I simply can't buff and I don't want issues there (otherwise I'd just use KSG).



I thought the BF spray was more of a QD :think: I have some (old, from when I tried BF) and I never thought of it as being a true (spray) sealant that'd last for months the way the 4 Star stuff did.



The BF darkening would relegate the stuff to trim only...I absolutely *DO NOT* like BF on Audi silver. But it might be a good choice for the plastic cowling at the base of the Yukon's windshield. Could be OK on the black lower sections of the Audis too.



I somehow suspect Mr. Vaal would suggest their new sealant spray, the one with both synthetic and carnauba...but maybe I'm just being cynical.



I got surprising durability from the 4 Star Spray, and I'd sure hate to redo these areas on a regular basis. Hm...



The Zaino Z8 and Sonus Acrylic Glanz seem the most likely candidates so far, along with maybe the BF spray :think: But grrr....I simply love how UPP looks on the S8. Guess it's not a huge deal to just redo regular UPP on that instead of using a spray.
 
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