Removing Klasse SG

BAKER said:
What did you replace the KSG with Accumulator?
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Hard to remember...and it was before I was keeping good records- 8 years ago on a problematic car ('00 A6 4.2) that the dealer took back soon thereafter :think: IIRC I replaced it with either Souveran or #16; pretty sure it was some carnauba but I simply don't recall :nixweiss



It just stuck in my mind in the first place because I appreciate all sorts of different LSPs on that particular paint, the KSG is one of maybe 2 (other being Griot's BOS) that I immediately disliked in a big way. I did later decide I didn't care for some other LSPs on it either, but not right away like that.
 
If you put it on thick be prepared for a hell of a fight. Like BigJim said, you shouldn't even see it when applying, same goes with the AIO. I like the SG for winter protection. I tried C476 last year and it held up but just a little short of SG on the lower panels. The durability is nuts with this stuff.



However I think I am going to phase out my Klasse in favour of the Werkstat line pending endurance testing.
 
Had some trouble removing some sg tonight, so did a search to post my removal method:

I use a damp (water) microfiber towel. Comes off great, even in areas I knew I put it on to heavy.
 
One thing that I've noticed is that Klasse SG is much easier to apply and remove if you use a microfiber applicator rather than foam.



I also like how the MF applicator absorbs the excess product. You can control how much you apply by how much pressure you put on the applicator. This makes it VERY easy to apply evenly and thinly.



Also, a second coat seems to make a world of difference for me.
 
wfedwar said:
I agree. Klasse and Werkstat are the only products I've seen improve with layering.
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I've only ever applied 2 coats. Is 3 or 4 worthwhile?



After two coats, I usually top with one or two coats of a good carnauba wax. I love how Souveran looks on top of KSG on my black infinity.



But it's winter now, so the KSG is topped with a coat of Collinite 845. It looks awesome, feels awesome, and is pretty much bulletproof.
 
I apply SG with a microfiber applicator. I usually try to apply it in an X shape on the applicator with lines as thin as possible. I'm a habitual over-applier so I tend to apply more SG on the applicator for every panel. The nice thing about the microfiber applicator is that it soaks up some of the SG if you put too much on. I can usually manage to apply a whisper thin layer to the car without any problems.



I apply SG panel by panel and buff each panel as I go along. I just use a regular microfiber towel for buffing. It's always come off fairly easily for me. I've also tried applying SG to the whole car before buffing and found it to be no more difficult than going panel by panel.
 
Eric1285 said:
I apply SG with a microfiber applicator. I usually try to apply it in an X shape on the applicator with lines as thin as possible. I'm a habitual over-applier so I tend to apply more SG on the applicator for every panel. The nice thing about the microfiber applicator is that it soaks up some of the SG if you put too much on. I can usually manage to apply a whisper thin layer to the car without any problems.



I apply SG panel by panel and buff each panel as I go along. I just use a regular microfiber towel for buffing. It's always come off fairly easily for me. I've also tried applying SG to the whole car before buffing and found it to be no more difficult than going panel by panel.
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I'm with you....mostly.



I think that an X across the applicator is WAY too much product. I will apply a thin line across one side of the applicator and do the first panel. After that, I apply a pea sized drop on each subsequent panel.
 
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I'm with you....mostly.



I think that an X across the applicator is WAY too much product. I will apply a thin line across one side of the applicator and do the first panel. After that, I apply a pea sized drop on each subsequent panel.
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Yeah, I tend to use too much product. I've also used a rectangle outline along the edges of the applicator so that it's easier to apply to the tighter spots around the car.
 
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I've only ever applied 2 coats. Is 3 or 4 worthwhile?
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Absolutely (at least IME). The looks top out as best I can discern at 4 layers, but 6 is where the durability *really* impresses me. Four isn't bad, but it's not all that great on surfaces that get a lot of exposure. Again, just IME and there are a lot of variables.



As for how much to use, I use *FAR* less than an ounce to do our minivan. I'm still on my first bottle after eight years or so and I use it a lot.
 
Accumulator said:
Absolutely (at least IME). The looks top out as best I can discern at 4 layers, but 6 is where the durability *really* impresses me. Four isn't bad, but it's not all that great on surfaces that get a lot of exposure. Again, just IME and there are a lot of variables.



As for how much to use, I use *FAR* less than an ounce to do our minivan. I'm still on my first bottle after eight years or so and I use it a lot.
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Maybe you need so many layers because you aren't putting enough on each layer. ;)



I find 4 layers to be my target amount, sometimes I stop at 3. Waiting at least 12 hours between layers.
 
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