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Frenzy said:
First of all, I don't have "lakckys".



Second, I not only sent out samples, I also packed a sample kit just for Autopia members (called the Autopia Sample Pack), which I sold to Autopia members at reduced prices.
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But we've only heard from two, both of which you gave samples. No ones else, besides me, has stepped forward to provide you with a review of your product. How can you explain this?
 
OMG. Now you want me to explain the actions of the Autopia members? When does it end? I guess you want to see receipts?



Have a great day!
 
pwalk said:




Lastly, many years ago, when I drove 2000 miles a week (yes, a week) for my job, I drove a 1995 Infiniti J30t. Some weekends I had the time to wax it. Those following Mondays, my gas mileage was 1 to 3 mpg higher versus a week later w/o a new coat of wax.



Believe it or not. :wavey
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I'll vote for the "NOT". 1 to 3 mpg higher just because you WAXED the car? Uh. No.



If that were the case, then my '01 Ford Taurus would get about 32 mpg, since it is polished and waxed constantly. But, it doesn't.



Are you sure the mpg increase wasn't related to something else, like driving speed, tire pressure, brand of gas, etc? There's just no way I can believe a 1-3mpg bump off of a wax job.
 
You talk a good talk but you haven't proven anything about your product.



You've even had someone offer to purchase your company if you could substansiate the three claims you've made in prior post. You can't do it.
 
ntwrkguy1 said:
I'll vote for the "NOT". 1 to 3 mpg higher just because you WAXED the car? Uh. No.



If that were the case, then my '01 Ford Taurus would get about 32 mpg, since it is polished and waxed constantly. But, it doesn't.



Are you sure the mpg increase wasn't related to something else, like driving speed, tire pressure, brand of gas, etc? There's just no way I can believe a 1-3mpg bump off of a wax job.
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Hey, maybe u r right. I could not believe it myself, and never would have noticed it if I was not so 'anal' about things like that.



I thought I ruled out all other factors, but who knows, maybe I was lighter on the gas pedal w/o realizing it.:nixweiss



I am just happy I don't drive the miles anymore......:bounce
 
Frenzy said:
When does it end?
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It will end when you substantiate the claims you've made. If you can provide any scientific proof of the 1210' claim, I'll eat one of my buffer pads. You do realize that 1200' is in the range of high-temperature paints that are used on brake calipers and the like? Do you really expect any of us to believe, without proof, that any wax or sealant will stand up to those kinds of temps?



You started all of this by including a short little infomercial in your first post. People started questioning you on it, and now it has spun into this. There's a lesson to be learned, there, I think . . .



Tort
 
I'm sorry if I offended anybody with my posting of the parody ad for the new revolutionary wax. I'm just tired of hearing the same crap from companies that don't support their claims other than to say they have nothing to prove to anybody. There's alot of new people that come here that are unaware about these claims these companies make, backed by no evidence,and might get suckered into buying these products. And yes, pwak, I'll shut up because I don't have anything nice to say about this matter.
 
Excuse me, but Kim is not a "he".



My company is NOT for sale.



I did not start an infomercial. If you'll read back, all I did was tell the guy that started this thread that color need not be a factor when selecting a wax. You all prompted the further discussions.



There is no way for me to support my claims via a computer.



YOU claimed NASCAR teams do not wax their cars....I proved differently. Of course, no response.



I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. If I respond to your "comments", I am "pimping" my product. If I don't, I obviously can't substantiate my claims. Don't you have cars to detail or something? I do. See ya.
 
To DB and the Moderators,



Why hasn't this person been banned? Better people have been banned for a lot less.



"Use of Autopia.org (any of its facilities) to conduct any and all forms of unauthorized commercial business are prohibited. There will be no warnings for violators. Violators will be banned without exception."
 
First of all...yes I am a chemist, secondly I work for a wax and polish company, and I do participate in this forum.



The people on this forum know more about the use of polishes and waxes than I do. I may know how to make a product, but these folks have taken application to the next level.



And guess what? You've ticked them off with your over the top hype. If you had come on the forum without all the B.S. you would have been readily accepted and your products would have had a fair shot...that chance is probably gone now. But, I wouldn't be surprised to see you re-invent the program...maybe next year...you'll learn.



If you want to sell to the mindless masses...then keep it up. If you want to sell to autopians...lose the baggage.
 
Frenzy said:
Excuse me, but Kim is not a "he".



My company is NOT for sale.



I did not start an infomercial. If you'll read back, all I did was tell the guy that started this thread that color need not be a factor when selecting a wax. You all prompted the further discussions.



There is no way for me to support my claims via a computer.



YOU claimed NASCAR teams do not wax their cars....I proved differently. Of course, no response.



I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. If I respond to your "comments", I am "pimping" my product. If I don't, I obviously can't substantiate my claims. Don't you have cars to detail or something? I do. See ya.
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The claims made by Kim:



1.To begin with, we use #1 grade white carnauba which (unlike yellow carnaubas) will not leave a light yellow film on your vehicle.



2. Waxing Frenzy protects up to 1210 degrees.



3. NASCAR uses Waxing Frenzy because of its aerodynamic properties. Some of our NASCAR teams have actually picked up speed using it.



You've only shown that they use it. You haven't provided any proof to substansiate the claim that they've picked up speed using your product.
 
Feel free to contact EJP Racing. Ask them if WF helped them pick up speed in Daytona last season. How else can I possibly prove it to you. In a 2-lap time trial, they picked up two tenths of a second. Not much to the average person, but it was enough to qualify them for the race.



I don't know what you want from me. I have had paid ads on this site. I have contacted the owners of this site recently to re-up the ad, but was told they were not available at the time. I think this site can be a useful tool. You want be "banned" for answering questions just because you don't like my answers.



I have not made one false statement on this site, nor will I.



We are all frustrated with the crap that is on the market today.

There have been great strides made in technology and the big companies do not have a monopoly on development.



Every wax company started where we are. And, we knew going into it that we would face HARSH criticism and scepticism. This is a highly competitive market and we are fortunate that our products speak for themselves.
 
Frenzy said:
..we are fortunate that our products speak for themselves.
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Let's get a sample to Mr. Chemist (thanks for offering, ScottWax :xyxthumbs ) and see how it tests out. I *am* making the assumption that he can be accepted as an impartial judge despite his working for "the competition". Sufficiently documented, objective testing in a controlled environment should be acceptable to everybody, and Mr. Chemist has done nothing to suggest that he is a dishonest fellow. So let's indeed let the product speak for itself and see what it has to say.
 
Frenzy said:
Feel free to contact EJP Racing. Ask them if WF helped them pick up speed in Daytona last season. How else can I possibly prove it to you. In a 2-lap time trial, they picked up two tenths of a second. Not much to the average person, but it was enough to qualify them for the race.



I don't know what you want from me. I have had paid ads on this site. I have contacted the owners of this site recently to re-up the ad, but was told they were not available at the time. I think this site can be a useful tool. You want be "banned" for answering questions just because you don't like my answers.



I have not made one false statement on this site, nor will I.



We are all frustrated with the crap that is on the market today.

There have been great strides made in technology and the big companies do not have a monopoly on development.



Every wax company started where we are. And, we knew going into it that we would face HARSH criticism and scepticism. This is a highly competitive market and we are fortunate that our products speak for themselves.
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It's funny that EJP Racing would give WF the credit for picking up two tenths of a second and not the driver. But let's, for the moment, put the Craftsman Turck Series aside.



What I want is for you to backup the claims yhou made about your product. Either you can or you can't. Now prove the other claims you made. Regardless of how you do it, just do it or go peddle your product somewhere else. All of this rubish came spewing out of your mouth and you haven't proven anything. Perhaps you should ask the bartender, you call a chemist, to field some of the harder questions.



Also, you need to address this gentleman's inquiry:



T. Perinne said:
I've never noticed a wax or sealent make a difference in my 1/4 mile times. I sure prefer to race a clean and waxed car but I don't understand how any LSP can improve you performance... it seems the differences in drag would be too minute. How many tenths can I expect to pick up with WF?



I really love the slickness of 4* UPP, does WF leave a slicker finish?



I've never seen a yellow film from using Souveran paste on my black Mustang - will WF actually look better than PS on black?



These are a couple of preffered characteristics of a few of my favorite products... can you tell me how WF stacks up specifically?



Thanks.
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Claim # 1.



Already in a big hole here...no such thing...somebody please send me some white carnauba with a cert. of analysis?



Claim # 2.



Great claim if you live on Mercury...not really relavent to every day driving.



Claim # 3.



Again, so what....I want my car to look good and be protected...on this planet.....and I don't need to pick up 2 tenths on the way to work.



I'm going to leave this thread now....the feeding frenzy is over.
 
Kim you are truly mad.



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[lifts pinky to lips]

Twelve-Hundred Degrees Fahrenheit!

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First of all, I honestly think it is disgraceful how far this thread has gotten off topic. Whether intentional or not (I know many wanted their feelings heard) this is about as far off topic as i think i have ever seen a thread get. This is truely disgraceful guys. Yes, I realize you wanted to be heard and confront the WF issue, but hijacking someones thread is not the way to go about it. There are other venues, like Ask the Manufacturer. If this ruffles some feathers, I'm sorry, but this thread is majorily hijacked. On behalf of the Autopian community, I apologize to you BAKER. Your thread was hijacked when you were asking for help. I am truely sorry. If you want any further help, PM me and i will do my best to point you in the right direction.



As for gold colored paint, I dont have any real experience with it to be honest. If you want something really reflective, Poorboys EX-P or Klasse SG might do the trick for you. If you want a deeper, more glossy look, you might want to try EX, a "higher end" wax like p21s or Souveran on top of one of those sealants. I personally really like Meguiars #16, but I'm not quite sure how it would look on gold.



Best of luck, hope this helps.
 
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