Reccomendations for easy to use polishes

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imported_RedlineIRL

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I was wondering if you all could give me some reccomendations for polishes that are fairly easy to use (for those more at a beginner/amateur level) with the PC 7424. I am looking for something that is strong enough to eliminate some lighther water etching, but not so strong that it will create bigtime hazing and polishing swirls. I'd also like to use some polishes that require a little work time and where you can tell when they start to break down, not something that only takes a few passes. I bought some Meguiars 105 and 205, but I just don't really like they work with the non diminishing abrasives and how quickly they cut. I am sure most of you experienced guys like this, but I am one who likes to go at a slower pace and be able to visually see the progress with the polish.



I have been kind of looking at the Menzerna polishes, specifically the Super Intensive polish. Does this polish fit into the categories I am looking at for strength and ease of use? What works best at finishing it off and getting rid of any micromarring, Final Polish II. Keep in mind it's going to be on GM vehicles, so I am not sure which will be better.



I am getting ready to order a few different polishes to keep on hand and some pads too, so any reccomendations you could give with the Menzerna or any other ease of use polishes will be greatly appreciated
 
Meg's Ultimate Compount and SwirlX. Basically non prescription strength 105/205. Longer work times, even with the Ultimate Compound. The SwirlX finishes nicely. Better yet, they're readily available OTC. From what I have been told, there isn't really another 2-step combo out there quite like what Meguiar's has. So if you're going with Mezerna, you're likely to need 3. The SIP for cutting, I can't recall the intermediate, and then uh 85rd for final polish. This is what I was told anyway.



I've got Uber pads, and am quite happy with them. Luck of the draw has me working on a lot of hard clears, so the 5.5" Uber yellow with Ultimate Compound is my bread and butter. I'm just about to step up to 105, so if it cuts as good as everyone claims on here, I'll probably be stepping down to the orange.
 
Legacy99 said:
Get the Wolfgang Twins, made by Menzerna.
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I am not too familiar with the Woldgang products. What consists of the twins? Is it their total swirl removed combined with something else?



ThrillHo said:
Meg's Ultimate Compount and SwirlX. Basically non prescription strength 105/205. Longer work times, even with the Ultimate Compound. The SwirlX finishes nicely. Better yet, they're readily available OTC. From what I have been told, there isn't really another 2-step combo out there quite like what Meguiar's has. So if you're going with Mezerna, you're likely to need 3. The SIP for cutting, I can't recall the intermediate, and then uh 85rd for final polish. This is what I was told anyway.
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I haven't heard of using the Ultimate Compound and SwirlX by PC before, but it seems possible. SwirlX has always seemed to dry up and paste quickly by hand use. Do you see that when using it with a PC?
 
Did you actually try the 105/205? Did you try the Swirl Abolisher II that you already have with an orange pad yet? Did you watch those Mike Phillips machine polishing videos? Where are you located? Perhaps there is a fellow member nearby who can give you a hand.



EDIT: We used to have a saying when I first joined here: "process > product" which means that process and technique is more important than what product or brand you use. You should be able to get measureable results with any of the products you have; IMO product hopping is only going to cost you a lot of money--you need to learn the process of polishing. Either that or get a local pro to take out the spots for you.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Did you actually try the 105/205? Did you try the Swirl Abolisher II that you already have with an orange pad yet? Did you watch those Mike Phillips machine polishing videos? Where are you located? Perhaps there is a fellow member nearby who can give you a hand.



EDIT: We used to have a saying when I first joined here: "process > product" which means that process and technique is more important than what product or brand you use. You should be able to get measureable results with any of the products you have; IMO product hopping is only going to cost you a lot of money--you need to learn the process of polishing. Either that or get a local pro to take out the spots for you.
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+1



well said. :)
 
Note that (IME) most GM clear is *HARD*. Not Audi-hard, but hard enough that it's easy to waste time with too-mild approaches.



RedlineIRL- From what you posted, I bet you'd like the new Optimum spray products. The Wolfgang products are, as I understand it (never tried them myself) very user-friendly versions of the good Menzerna stuff. Mike Phillips raves about how easy they are, and even if he is an AutoGeek rep I'd take him at his word.
 
RedlineIRL said:
I haven't heard of using the Ultimate Compound and SwirlX by PC before, but it seems possible. SwirlX has always seemed to dry up and paste quickly by hand use. Do you see that when using it with a PC?
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Not in the slightest. Just keep your pad clean and you can literally work the polish until it vanishes : ) It's fun watching the product get thinner and thinner with each pass. Ok maybe not VANISH but just a little residue left that is easily wiped off. It's a very mild product. If GM is as hard as some other people have said, you're definitely going to need a compounding step (UC) beforehand.



The UC on the other hand does have a slight tendency to dust, but again just try to keep your pad as clean as possible and when all else fails just switch to a new one.



Try the 105 before you prematurely throw in the towel. I was about halfway through my first car using UC on an orange pad when I realized that Ultimate Compound wasn't cutting enough for me. There is a learning curve for sure, but this is paint polishing. Not rocket science.
 
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