Rapid Fire regimen

I must say everybody here has been very kind and helpful, I've learned so much and just need to absorb all this information.
P.S. Thanks Todd for all your time.
 
We have found on the accords a very simple process:

Once you've done your first clay, wash, TPNS and CS, the way to maintain,is a simple wash and CS every few couple months. Between, a wash and simple spray with the poly spray or detailer will work fine.

It's that simple...anything else you want to do, is because you like to mess with things....
 
Greycar said:
I must say everybody here has been very kind and helpful, I've learned so much and just need to absorb all this information.
P.S. Thanks Todd for all your time.
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No problem! If you have any questions we (the forum) are always here to help. This is one of the most sincere communities I have ever been a part of! :autopia:
 
Ok Todd a little blasephy here:

I'm coming to the conclusion that there is a slightly better 1st step than the TPnS on a new car. I have done two cars with meguires 205/white pad as the polishing step and then the crystal seal and get a bit better reflection than TPNS. It's not a night and day diff, it takes an experienced eye to see the diff and a machine application.

try it and you tell me......I know I'm losing some stacked polymers, but I stay on top of these two cars to have that matter.
 
I'm not trying to mess with things, rapid fire is good, however there are always new products coming out which may or may not be better. Just keeping all options available maybe someone has tried something different and can share their thoughts, that's all.
 
Greycar said:
I'm not trying to mess with things, rapid fire is good, however there are always new products coming out which may or may not be better. Just keeping all options available maybe someone has tried something different and can share their thoughts, that's all.
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you miss the point.... "mess with things" is not a derogatory statement ,- this board is filled with all of us that "mess with things"...My point is you can always try additional items and layers, but you get great coverage with a few basic products here in every product line....everything you do past that is because you like to try new things...
 
glen e said:
Ok Todd a little blasephy here:

I'm coming to the conclusion that there is a slightly better 1st step than the TPnS on a new car. I have done two cars with meguires 205/white pad as the polishing step and then the crystal seal and get a bit better reflection than TPNS. It's not a night and day diff, it takes an experienced eye to see the diff and a machine application.

try it and you tell me......I know I'm losing some stacked polymers, but I stay on top of these two cars to have that matter.
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I'm not Todd but IMO Of coarse your going to get a little bit better shine because, 205 has a lot more cut than TPNS. Even if you can't see the imprefections there are still some in the paint under a microscope. So while TPNS will remove a little bit of this, 205 will remove a ton more. If you like the results you get with 205, maybe try BF SRC Finishing polish? It plays nice with all the BF products you already have and finishes down much better than 205 to my eyes with about the same cut maybe just a tad less. My personal favorite combo to get that serious whip lash affect is SRC finishing polish/BFWD/MS. This will break necks and you need 2 coats of each :rockon
 
Ok, I see we're your going, I do like to 'mess' with new products and see how they are. As far as the gloss enhancing polish having more cut, I feel like I could be damaging the paint, clear coat of whatever using something abrasive (i used tpns almost 3 months ago)I have to say as an amateur that has been my fear about the detailing process. This could be all in my head or there probably some truth to my fear, I trying to figure out how often and which products to use so a noob like myself won't screw the car up.
 
Greycar said:
Ok, I see we're your going, I do like to 'mess' with new products and see how they are. As far as the gloss enhancing polish having more cut, I feel like I could be damaging the paint, clear coat of whatever using something abrasive (i used tpns almost 3 months ago)I have to say as an amateur that has been my fear about the detailing process. This could be all in my head or there probably some truth to my fear, I trying to figure out how often and which products to use so a noob like myself won't screw the car up.
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todd answered this in post 17

with an orbital and any of the products we are discussing here, you could use every one of them with an orbital every day for months and your paint would not suffer. These are micro abrasive and your clear coat is not electron thin...I asked this question of Todd a year ago and that was his answer...
 
Speaking of quick and painless jobs - my neighbor bought a 2007 50K miles Hyundai sonata used, and the paint was in good shape with the prerequisite swirls and nicks but overall pretty good after we did a rinseless:



So he wanted crystal seal, so I decided to do a quick polish doing the following. It is now 90 degrees in fla and we were in the sun, so any use of UC almost dried immediately on the hot surface. So here's what I did. I filled my Venus sprayer with waterless, and did a few passes with a nanoskin sponge and while still wet, used UC on a orange pad on a GG6, as it was still wet from the sponge it worked great. An immediate buff off while still wet with a MF, yeilded great results. A coat of CS and we were done on an hour and the car looks really nice:

 
glen e said:
todd answered this in post 17

with an orbital and any of the products we are discussing here, you could use every one of them with an orbital every day for months and your paint would not suffer. These are micro abrasive and your clear coat is not electron thin...I asked this question of Todd a year ago and that was his answer...
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Correct.. While paint is thin, the products we use on painted are designed to that scale...

To us paint is as thin as a sheet of paper
To the abrasive the paint is as tall as a mountain

It's all relative. With something very mild like TPnS you could (in theory) use it every couple of months for for years and years and likely find little to no change in measurable paint thickness...

Then again if you apply it with a wool pad and a rotary the results would be different, but with a polishing pad and a da, you have nothing to worry about ;)
 
Todd Helme said:
Correct.. While paint is thin, the products we use on painted are designed to that scale...

To us paint is as thin as a sheet of paper
To the abrasive the paint is as tall as a mountain

It's all relative. With something very mild like TPnS you could (in theory) use it every couple of months for for years and years and likely find little to no change in measurable paint thickness...

Then again if you apply it with a wool pad and a rotary the results would be different, but with a polishing pad and a da, you have nothing to worry about ;)
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'Paint is as tall as a mountain', that puts a visual to our discussion, thanks for that. I also looked at one of your sticky's about abrasives and noticed gloss enhancing polish is rated 0 and tpns is rated 1. Why would one product be used over the other? Both used with white polishing pads?
 
Greycar said:
'Paint is as tall as a mountain', that puts a visual to our discussion, thanks for that. I also looked at one of your sticky's about abrasives and noticed gloss enhancing polish is rated 0 and tpns is rated 1. Why would one product be used over the other? Both used with white polishing pads?
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GEP is just a "Gloss" Enhancer which should be followed with a dedicated LSP. TPNS is an all in one that can stand on it own feet.
 
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