quite disappointed about WW
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Ease up MDX im with you...................Look i think the answer is simple but I may be wrong. I thing you think that the WW will gobble up masses of water and leave no water trails..................they dont.
Most of the professionals here eithier use 2 towels or make sure they dont have large volumes of water to soak up.
WW will leave trails of water when saturated....end of story. They are, however terrific when used to wipe up a damp car that does not have masses of water on it. WW is NOT a chamois it does not wring out. It is a terrific tool on a damp car. Used properly it uses the brilliance of microfiber to absorb water and clean the surface.
I havent used Pakshak but Ranney seems to be a bit of a legend here and im sure his products are fantastic. I think the answer is in the amount of water left on the vehicle BEFORE drying thats the issue.
Dan
Most of the professionals here eithier use 2 towels or make sure they dont have large volumes of water to soak up.
WW will leave trails of water when saturated....end of story. They are, however terrific when used to wipe up a damp car that does not have masses of water on it. WW is NOT a chamois it does not wring out. It is a terrific tool on a damp car. Used properly it uses the brilliance of microfiber to absorb water and clean the surface.
I havent used Pakshak but Ranney seems to be a bit of a legend here and im sure his products are fantastic. I think the answer is in the amount of water left on the vehicle BEFORE drying thats the issue.
Dan
JimS
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I use pakshaks ww towels and have NEVER had any kind of problem.
I don't know if this is the reason but I hope it is since I can repair it but is it because I use too much Dawn when I wash it and I didn't rinse it well so residue is sticking on the cloth?? If so, can I remove the residue but rinsing it in warm to hot water?? Or is it better if I put it in a hot bucket a water and let it soak overnight??
Jesstzn
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C-MDX said:
Throw it in the washer on the cool rinse cycle then hang to dry.
raymond_ho2002
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I didnt think dawn would leave a residue.. I'd repeatedly rinse with hot water until the water no longer feels soapy.
If there is a residue on it, you can try some murphy's oil soap to try to get it out. It should be available at home depot, walgreens, target, grocery stores, supermarkets, etc.. where they have soap and detergents.
If there is a residue on it, you can try some murphy's oil soap to try to get it out. It should be available at home depot, walgreens, target, grocery stores, supermarkets, etc.. where they have soap and detergents.
tom p.
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JimS said:
:up :up
Jesstzn
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C-MDX said:
Should rinse out the soap residue. Thats what I do woth mine I wash them by hand in the laundry tub in Dawn then throw them in the washer in cool rinse. Then hang to dry
k2dan said:
I think you're making assumptions k2dan. In my experience, the WW *does* gobble up masses of water without leaving trails. First time I used mine, I had just washed a friend's minivan. It was cold. I probably wasn't as careful in washing/sheeting as I might have been. But one large MicrofiberTech WW dried that entire puppy without me having to take any particular precautions. (I was too new and stupid even to know that I might oughta take precautions.
) And I never had to wring it out. I'm no professional. But I also don't have trouble drying a car with a single WW. I do now try to be sure that, at the end of my wash process, I do the "water sheeting" that's described in other threads here so that I don't have *excessive* water left on the paint. Also, I make sure that, when I wash my WWs, I run them thru *2* rinse cycles. I don't have a clue why C-MDX is having these problems with his WW, but I don't think you can just dismiss everybody else's success as some kind of "magic." As many others have said here, either C-MDX is innocently "missing" some part of the process or he has somehow gotten hold of towels that are, for some reason, defective.
Yep, but as I've said, I've not had a WW get saturated on a regular sedan, or on a minivan. In fact, first time I used mine, I dried a minivan, couldn't squeeze a single drop of excess water out of the WW, so I went on and dried my Benz sedan too.
This gets me to thinking, C-MDX: Is there any chance that somehow your WWs could have some fabric softener in them? That certainly would account for them repelling water rather than drinking it up.
Not meaning to attack anybody. But, k2dan, it doesn't sound to me like there's a simple answer. Those of us who have had success aren't using any magical tricks. And it doesn't sound like C-MDX has made any mistakes. Which is why most of us seemed stumped as to why his experience is so different (and worse) than most Autopians. We're just trying to help analyze the source of the problem.
Lynn, will my WW act like new (or like what everyone said here) after going though a rinse cycle (or 2)?? I use a CWB and one WW to dry my MDX, is it enough or should I get one more WW?? If I do need two WW to dry my beast, I'll get a Ultimate drying towel from DavidB so I can compare them with Pakshak's 
I've never needed more than 1 WW for my cars, and they're fairly large sedans. So I think surely 1 will be enough for you.
As I hope you can hear here, many of us are truly perplexed by your experience, because it's so different than ours. If I were in your shoes (or if you were just down the street from me!), I'd put those puppies in the washer with NO detergent. Run them thru a full cycle -- and if you have a setting that lets you do a double-rinse, opt for that. Then let them line dry. By the way, take a look in the washer from time-to-time while they're washing. If you're seeing suds, that's your sign that they do have detergent buildup, and just keep cycling them thru til you do not see suds.
Please do keep us posted on this. I'm really puzzled about why you're having this problem.
As I hope you can hear here, many of us are truly perplexed by your experience, because it's so different than ours. If I were in your shoes (or if you were just down the street from me!), I'd put those puppies in the washer with NO detergent. Run them thru a full cycle -- and if you have a setting that lets you do a double-rinse, opt for that. Then let them line dry. By the way, take a look in the washer from time-to-time while they're washing. If you're seeing suds, that's your sign that they do have detergent buildup, and just keep cycling them thru til you do not see suds.
Please do keep us posted on this. I'm really puzzled about why you're having this problem.
Lynn said:
Dear Lynn I am a Microfibre fanatic,. I have 100-200 Microfibres and I love them. If there is one product that leaves me a little cold its WW. I think I expect too much of WW and think its a chamois.....get it wet then wring out and keep going........ My whole line on this thread was based on does c-MDX have my problem ? Is it a bit all " in the head" where you are trying to compare a drying towel with a chamois?
I certainly did not do this i went to great pains to point out in a couple of different threads on WWs that they are a much loved Autopian product and people probably use them better than me.
I dont understand Lynn, Am I being moderated for putting my opinion based on my own experience with Waffle weaves ? All I was trying to do was give a different perspective on C-MDXs problem...................Perhaps the Towels are fine but they just get soaked quickly because there is too much water on the vehicle and there is a knack to using WW by mimimising the amount of water left after rinsing ?:nixweiss
No, k2dan -- NO WAY was I "moderating you." One downside of being an Autopia Moderator is that most of the time, I'm just replying as a regular-ol' enthusiast detailer, but because of the Moderator "title," folks may assume I'm always speaking with some sort of "voice of authority." Trust me, that is not the case. 98% of the time, I'm just trying -- like all of us -- to figure out what's what with all these processes and products.
But my experience does differ from the one you were recommending to C-MDX. I use the "sheeting method" to minimize the amount of water that remains on my cars after I wash them. And I have never had any problem getting one WW to dry a whole car, problem-free. And, as I mentioned, I've even done that one a big ol' minivan. You say you have to wring yours out and keep going. I have dried minivans and still not been able to wring more than a couple of droplets out of the WW. And I sense, from what others are saying, that my experience is borne out by most of the other folks posting here. And that's what led me to believe that the solution is (a) use the sheeting method (and not "some kind of magic," as you phrased it) to minimize residual water and/or (b) look at different ways of washing the towels.
But, yes, there is a "knack" to reducing the amount of water on the car. Have you seen the threads explaining the "sheeting" technique? It really is a huge help! :up
Me, I'm such a relative-newbie here, that when my results differ from what most folks report, I just tend to assume that I need first to assess my technique before assuming that the product is not "up to snuff." I try to offer my tips/advice with some humility, and I'm truly sorry it seemed to fail in this case, k2dan.
But my experience does differ from the one you were recommending to C-MDX. I use the "sheeting method" to minimize the amount of water that remains on my cars after I wash them. And I have never had any problem getting one WW to dry a whole car, problem-free. And, as I mentioned, I've even done that one a big ol' minivan. You say you have to wring yours out and keep going. I have dried minivans and still not been able to wring more than a couple of droplets out of the WW. And I sense, from what others are saying, that my experience is borne out by most of the other folks posting here. And that's what led me to believe that the solution is (a) use the sheeting method (and not "some kind of magic," as you phrased it) to minimize residual water and/or (b) look at different ways of washing the towels.
But, yes, there is a "knack" to reducing the amount of water on the car. Have you seen the threads explaining the "sheeting" technique? It really is a huge help! :up
Me, I'm such a relative-newbie here, that when my results differ from what most folks report, I just tend to assume that I need first to assess my technique before assuming that the product is not "up to snuff." I try to offer my tips/advice with some humility, and I'm truly sorry it seemed to fail in this case, k2dan.
No Worries Lynn we do everyrhing upside down anyway here in Australia ( :down down under...get it ! )
Ill break out my waffle weaves wash them carefully and give them another go. Im having a lot of success with a large Microfibre Chamois at the moment but ill give the WW another go.
:xyxthumbs
EDIT
My 3 WW are the Big Blues direct from the USA ? Some people here seem to think they are ok?
My local Aust supplier does not stock WW yet. Maybe I should get some of Ranneys.
Ill break out my waffle weaves wash them carefully and give them another go. Im having a lot of success with a large Microfibre Chamois at the moment but ill give the WW another go.
:xyxthumbs
EDIT
My 3 WW are the Big Blues direct from the USA ? Some people here seem to think they are ok?
My local Aust supplier does not stock WW yet. Maybe I should get some of Ranneys.
Jesstzn
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Lynn said:
Good advice Lynn... I'll just add a little .. C-MDX when you go to do this run the washer empty through a cycle with a little soap in it. My washers fabric softener dispenser always seems to drip or leave residue in the washer when the cycle is done. This will clean it out *before* your rinse. Also when looking for the soap bubbles she mentioned concentrate on the early parts of the first rinse. Even if you don't see them it doesn't mean there wasn't soap there .. just means there wasn't enough with the water dillution to make bubbles.