Questions about AM Hydroshine....

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usdm

I'll figure it out....
Ok, so I know some of you guys use this product, and I as value your opinions and feedback, I was hopin you could answer a few questions for me.



How do others of you apply this? Is this stricly for hand application or can it be applied by machine?



How wet does the paint need to be? Like, do I just apply this after rinsing off the car, or do I need to pull some water off then apply?



What is this? Does this contain wax, glaze, or is it more a gloss enhancer product like last touch or other QDs?



Can this be used for maintanance washes and be applied over existing waxes and sealants, or is this a stricly stand-alone product?



Do you guys find it fills paint marring?



Are there any advisories on use use related to weather (how cold or how hot is too much to use the product)?
 
Its actually a cool product (OMG AUTOMAGIC IS GOOD???!), - Fermani should chime in too on this.



Its very petroleum distillate(y), so its going to disturb your wax and sealant and I have noticed it has in the past - its not used as a regular QD or clay lube.



You can use this on a wet or dry car - as sorta a drying aid if you wish. Pretty versatile for most of the vehicle and you can use with a drying towel lightly or a wipe on wipe off application with separate towels. Definitely a spray on - wipe - wipe type of situation.



Its sorta like an express wax, but little more substantial spray wax for people in a volume situation. But its a nice product and protects well too - also will lightly fill some minor marring.



I really do like this stuff alot, once you get past the smell its lovely.
 
I use it on a sponge or mitt after I have washed the car. So, apply hydroshine on the sponge/mitt and apply it on the car while its still wet. Kind of a drying aid, just what Mike above me wrote.
 
MDRX8 said:
I have some but never tried it. Does it affect your LSP ??? Fermani Help !!!!
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Yes, read the 2nd post or see below



autoaesthetica said:
Its very petroleum distillate(y), so its going to disturb your wax and sealant and I have noticed it has in the past - its not used as a regular QD or clay lube.
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autoaesthetica said:
Its actually a cool product (OMG AUTOMAGIC IS GOOD???!), - Fermani should chime in too on this.



Its very petroleum distillate(y), so its going to disturb your wax and sealant and I have noticed it has in the past - its not used as a regular QD or clay lube.
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So then, can this be used as a base for wax or a gloss enhancer, instead?



How about machine application?



Are there problems with weather conditions- like its hot and humid here in the city, will these conditons have an affect on application?



Keep the feedback coming guys, really appreciate it.
 
"disturb " a broad term meaning?

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a: to interfere with : interrupt <disturbing the flow of traffic> b: to alter the position or arrangement of <the items on her desk had been disturbed> c: to upset the natural and especially the ecological balance or relations of <wetlands disturbed by development>





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a: to destroy the tranquillity or composure of <the noisy lawnmower disturbed their sleep> b: to throw into disorder c: alarm d: to put to inconvenience <sorry to disturb you at such a late hour>
 
usdm said:
So then, can this be used as a base for wax or a gloss enhancer, instead?



How about machine application?



Are there problems with weather conditions- like its hot and humid here in the city, will these conditons have an affect on application?



Keep the feedback coming guys, really appreciate it.
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In my use of it, its relatively quick and easy to use, with not too much problems with humidity. I would say its a fairly good product if you had weekly-monthly customers who were wash only and periodically paid for a coat of wax. Its quick enough to use, provides some protection to make the washing easier but doesnt cost anything considerable as far as time.



I never really thought of it but I suppose you could spray it on a pad and have at it by machine. It would be sorta like ZCS, OCW or OOS application. Probably nice as fast too.



MDRX8 said:
"disturb " a broad term meaning?

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a: to interfere with : interrupt <disturbing the flow of traffic> b: to alter the position or arrangement of <the items on her desk had been disturbed> c: to upset the natural and especially the ecological balance or relations of <wetlands disturbed by development>





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a: to destroy the tranquillity or composure of <the noisy lawnmower disturbed their sleep> b: to throw into disorder c: alarm d: to put to inconvenience <sorry to disturb you at such a late hour>
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Hehe nice. I will go with definition A. AM hydroshine is a very solventy product so I can't really imagine how smeary things might get if you used it over an oily luxury wax or even something like Blackfire sealant. I would imagine it would re-solubilize alot of the actives that give the protection and potentially make for a mess...





USDM what are you considerin Hydroshine for? What kind of situation are you in ?
 
USDM what are you considerin Hydroshine for? What kind of situation are you in ?
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Well, most of the folks Im dealing with now dont want to have their cars tied up for extended time for polishings, so I was looking for a budget/ express product. I want something that I could use wet or dry, offers some hiding ability by machine or hand, have nice gloss, and some slickness, etc.



OCW applies nice and quick, but has to go on dry paint



Snap Seal works well wet, but is more for paint cleaning than hiding or deepeining paint



Just trying to get a feel for what Hydroshine is, and what it can do.
 
I use Hydroshine on all our basic washes, I use a spray nozzle on the bottle and a few shots on each panel after the final rinse. It is quick and easy and does act like a drying agent. I have found that is leaves a nice coat of protection, since it is a "quick polymer". It probably does compromise what ever sealant or wax is on the paint, but it leaves its own anyways. I also buy multiple bottles at a time and dilute each bottle 1:1 with water, it actually makes spray application easier and doubles the product.

I love the stuff!
 
What if you have one of the new sealant/coatings i.e. Opti-Coat on your car. You would not like to compromise $$$ it for the sake of making it easy to dry ????



MirandaDetailin said:
I use Hydroshine on all our basic washes, I use a spray nozzle on the bottle and a few shots on each panel after the final rinse. It is quick and easy and does act like a drying agent. I have found that is leaves a nice coat of protection, since it is a "quick polymer". It probably does compromise what ever sealant or wax is on the paint, but it leaves its own anyways. I also buy multiple bottles at a time and dilute each bottle 1:1 with water, it actually makes spray application easier and doubles the product.

I love the stuff!
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I use it on wheels that "could" stand about 30 minutes of polishing and sealing, but customer doesn't want to pay for it. So, I hate to send stuff out of my shop with dull wheels, AM Hydro Shine - spray, wipe, holy cow - looks great. Ya'll know it's a quick fix that eventually fades, but, damn, it sure looks good. I used it on a van once - guy thought 50 bucks ought to be plenty for wash, clay, polish, seal, tires/wheels plus clean, vac and dress a filthy interior - in a damn Toyota van. He got a APC wash, vac, Hydro shine and wipe down inside. It looked 10x better than it did, but took him 2 days to get me my money. Not sorry that I lost him to the autospa!
 
MDRX8 said:
What if you have one of the new sealant/coatings i.e. Opti-Coat on your car. You would not like to compromise $$$ it for the sake of making it easy to dry ????
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Well I don't have any customers or clients that care that much about their vehicles, unfortunately. But if I did use any coatings like Opti-Coat I would not use Hydroshine anyways. I would just use a blower and watch the beads fly off!!:bigups
 
MDRX8 said:
What if you have one of the new sealant/coatings i.e. Opti-Coat on your car. You would not like to compromise $$$ it for the sake of making it easy to dry ????
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If that was your concern, I think a QD would be great after a flood rinse.





I think the siloxane coatings(Aquartz, Cquartz, etc) that are basically just super sealants would definitely be affected after a bunch of AM HS wipedowns





Awesome input from MirandaDetailing and JB. Glad to hear more people talking about it. Its definitely a cool product with a nice place in an arsenal, eventhough it won't be worth it or appeal to a lot of people.
 
Well, I decidd to get some hydroshine from a local place. If the weather holds up tomorrow, Im gonna give it a try on my car and see what results I get from it. If it works out the way I hope, this could be an extra solution for quick jobs where I dont have time to do a proper polish and wax.



Got me thinking though, if this stuff has a lot of solvent in it, how much would it be like that One stuff from Chemical Guys? Has anyone ever notced any cleaning action from it?
 
Hands down....Excellent and very unique product! I've used a ton of AM HS throughout the years. Strong kerosene smell, but it makes the paint shine like no other. Lasts a long time too. Keep in mind that it *can* react with fresh coats of wax/sealants, so I wouldn't use it until you've washed the vehicle 2 or 3 times. Don't use in the sun either.



When the car is wet, spray 1 squirt on each panel and dry. It has great drying properties too. You can use it as a QD, but it needs to be watered down a little. I actually used HS exclusively(no LSP) on one of my company cars for nearly 2 years and it kept the paint looking awsome. Here's the write-up I did a few years back: http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/89873-non-marring-results-how-i-wash-cars.html
 
David Fermani said:
Hands down....Excellent and very unique product! I've used a ton of AM HS throughout the years. Strong kerosene smell, but it makes the paint shine like no other. Lasts a long time too. Keep in mind that it *can* react with fresh coats of wax/sealants, so I wouldn't use it until you've washed the vehicle 2 or 3 times. Don't use in the sun either.



When the car is wet, spray 1 squirt on each panel and dry. It has great drying properties too. You can use it as a QD, but it needs to be watered down a little. I actually used HS exclusively(no LSP) on one of my company cars for nearly 2 years and it kept the paint looking awsome. Here's the write-up I did a few years back: http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/89873-non-marring-results-how-i-wash-cars.html
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Thanks for the feedback, David. Actually, that thread egged me on to give Hydroshine a try. As for the methods you used in that thread, Ive pretty much do this, albeit with different products. I dont get too many complaints from what I use, but if I can step things up on the budget/ express stuff, Im open to it. Definitely looking foward to giving this a try once the rain lets up (hopefully this thurs or friday).
 
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