Question on M105/205

nonwelder

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Thinking about some things...VW paint is fairly hard. 205 on a white pad does a nice job of bringing up gloss, but doesnt cut much. In an effort to go with a "least aggressive first" approach, would it be wise to try 205 on an orange pad? Think that would require follow up with a white/205?



Looking for suggestions. Nothing major. Just some wash marring.



Thanks.
 
While I guess I won't argue with the "try the least abrasive approach first" idea, IME M205, even on an orange pad via Flex, wasn't enough to correct light marring on either GM or Audi clear, so I wouldn't expect it to work on a VW either. But IIRC others have had the M205/orange combo do OK correction, so I suppose YMMV :nixweiss
 
I actually dont have 105 yet...I have ultimate compound. I might give that a run on the LC orange and then hit it with 205 on a white. Thanks for the expertise.
 
OneQuickGT1 said:
I actually dont have 105 yet...I have ultimate compound. I might give that a run on the LC orange and then hit it with 205 on a white. Thanks for the expertise.



Some advanced autos carry M105. Look for it in the paint correction / sandpaper section rather than the car care section. You can look on their website to see if they have it at one near you.
 
Your plan sounds soild. Ultimate compound is MUCH easier to use than 105. I'd try that on a polishing pad first - probably won't cut it so you'll need to step up to a cutting pad. Two steps either way you look at it. The 205 should finish down nicely with a polishing pad.
 
extrabolts said:
Some advanced autos carry M105. Look for it in the paint correction / sandpaper section rather than the car care section. You can look on their website to see if they have it at one near you.



I was very excited to find my local NAPA carrying M105 on its shelves. I was less than excited when I saw it was $40 for a 32oz bottle.:angry
 
smoknfastlegend said:
my autozone had 105, 205, final inspection in gallon size, and a shurhold DA.



Ooooh, I'm envious! The autozone in my area sure doesn't have such stuff, I'm lucky if they have 845.
 
None of the auto parts stores have 845 by me. One of the AA does carry M105, 205, and final inspection. Price is high, and frankly, I do not need 32 ounces of it at a time. End up ordering smaller sizes and paying shipping. Stinks. :(
 
smoknfastlegend said:
my autozone had 105, 205, final inspection in gallon size, and a shurhold DA.



Geez, Joey. Rub it in....:tsk:



Any idea how that Shurhold is? Quality, strength, etc.
 
mikenap said:
Geez, Joey. Rub it in....:tsk:



Any idea how that Shurhold is? Quality, strength, etc.



I think i was told that it is slightly heavier then the GG 6" but is similar in shape. I know the geek sells it.



Here is a pic:

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105 and 205 32oz was 32.99, final inspection in gallon form was 23.99, the shurhold was 149.99



They had other stuff, but what i wanted to find was the pads......hmmmm. I originally went in to buy Eagle1 Tire swipes, and later found they changed to the crappy open, stiff foam, but i found my local advance auto had 4 packages of the old version.
 
They actually also had Lake Country 6.5" CCS white and black pads! For 8.99 each, and the lake country backing plate for 15.99. WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO!?!?!? AUTOZONE CARRYING DETAILING SUPPLIES? My whole world is flipped upside down.
 
5.0GTCS said:
Will lake country pads work on a GG With the stock baking plate?!?



Yeah, as long as you get the right size for the backing plate (i.e., 6.5", dunno if they even sell the 6" ones but those will work too, just a lesser margin of safety); the velcro is a match, if that's what you're wondering. And any "PC-compatible" backing plate will fit the GG unit too.



But don't discount the Griot's pads if you're buying, they're good for what they are. I use mine a lot, it's just that you need something more aggressive for serious correction.
 
I just got a GG 6" and only 1 6.5" LC Tangerine pad and M205. I really got it for practicing but I was wondering if that combo would be good enough to remove some minor swirling on a 3 month old 2012 mustang gt.



I made a thread on it last night. I honestly rushed the decision on pads and polish because I was rushing to order before the sales ended lol. I was thinking I just needed very light correction so I bought the mildest stuff.



This site has taught me tons in like 2 weeks but I'm new to pads and polishers/polishing so still sketchy on that. But the GG came with a free DVD combo do hopefully learn more with that.
 
5.0GTCS said:
I just got a GG 6" and only 1 6.5" LC Tangerine pad and M205. I really got it for practicing but I was wondering if that combo would be good enough to remove some minor swirling on a 3 month old 2012 mustang gt...



Some people here have much better success with combos like that (with regard to correcting marring) than I do, but on my only Ford (Crown Vic, different plant than your car, maybe very different paint :nixweiss ) that's too gentle. Maybe things will work out better for you, only one way to find out!



I do think it'll be interesting to see how you think the LC Tangerine and the Griot's Orange compare; I've only used the latter but I hear the two pads are *VERY* similar.



One thing though, you gotta keep the pads clean with polishes that use nondiminishing abrasives (e.g., M205), so you'll almost certainly need more pads. Stop and clean the pads out frequently, and more often is better than less so don't try to do two or three panels (maybe not even one, that's how it works for me) before stopping to clean/dry.



See how it works. Even if it doesn't correct all the marring it'll give a nice gloss. You can always try something more potent (Uno, Optimum Hyper Compound, etc.) later if you want to get more aggressive.



Are you planning to strip off the M205 oils or just LSP right over them? I've done it both ways and IMO (yeah, this is more of my Autopian Heresy :o ) stripping isn't *always* mandatory. But when you do want to remove those oils, it can be a big job; IPA doesn't always do it for me.
 
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