Question about "Use in the sun" products

wifehatescar

wifehatescar

My L5-S1 is killing me!
It seems like one of the only product lines that advertises "Use in the sun" is ok is Poorboys. (maybe a couple others, not sure)



Does everyone not using PB's *really* do all their polishing/waxing under-roof? This year I will be detailing other peoples cars more than my own. I have to assume a large amount of these will just be sitting in the driveway. Does that mean I will be limited to using PB's? Or does everything else (e.g. DACP, SFP, Menzerna, Klasse....) work ok in the sun in all but the hottest/sunniest days?

Maybe another good questions "what makes a product work in the sun" vs one that does not tout being able to be used in the sun.



Can anyone shed some light on this for me please?
 
I don't think I'd ever do any prep work in the sun.



Chemical reactions from heat are often part of the equation with good products, and the sun could really throw that off.
 
Greg said:
Working on hot paint is just a bad idea. It makes products impossible to remove- especially polishes like DACP.
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Yeah I know. I guess my question could be phrased as "how do people forced to work outside (ie a mobile detailer) cope with this"? besides just buying PB's SSR's.....
 
Either do the car in the early morning or late afternoon. Of course that is not always possible. I have tried to use DACP and SFP in the direct sun (in the summer) and let me tell you, it is NOT a good idea.



I have used SSR1 and SSR2 on very hot paint in direct sun with NO problems. I don't like to do it, but sometimes it is unavoidable.
 
Your fine under the sun, they just don't want people detailing on paint that is boiling and running around claiming that the product is horrible.
 
I guess there is a difference between "being in the sun" and the surface of the car being HOT. On a 50 or 60* day even in the sun, most products might be able to be used as the surface might be warm but not hot.....?
 
Polishes will work better if the panel is warm but thats another topic for another time :)



If your really worried about it, get one of those laser beam temp guns.
 
You might want to invest in a portable shelter. I use a 10x10 EZ-Up tent. It's light enough and simple enough to put up and take down with one person. It will not give total coverage of a vehicle at one time but you can move the vehicle around to get it in shaded areas.



I have just discovered the ClearKote line of products (thanks to this forum) and have been very pleased with them. Vanilla Moose Wax Hand Glaze, Carnuba Moose Wax and Moose Wax can all be applied in direct sunlight and on warm body panels. I recently used Moose Wax on a black '03 Hummer H2 that would not even begin to fit under my shelter. I waxed the car on a sunny 70 degree Georgia day and it came out perfect.
 
Unfortunately a tent won't fit in my Integra, let alone the products I will be carrying ;)

I'll just do my best to stay out of the sun and use PB's or CK exclusively if I have to.

*I* have a garage, so I can use whatever I want on MY car even on a 100* day :)
 
joed1228 said:


If your really worried about it, get one of those laser beam temp guns.
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If I did, I'm sure the "max" temp before I "worry" would be a whole nother highly debatable topic:D
 
American Shine's wax (and I think, glaze) can also be used in the direct sun. Like ebpcivicsi, I try to schedule details or wax jobs for early morning or late afternoon when the sun is not so direct. In addition, most customers offer the use of their garage without any prompting on my behalf.
 
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