Question about Menzerna PG

Moe

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I have been using Menzerna PG for quite a while now and noticed that it has a tendency to dry up quickly and requires constant misting of the pad. Otherwise, it would leave white residue on the paint that is difficult to wipe off instead of a gloss finish. Also, how many passes do you guys have to through with PG to remove 2000 sand grit marks or deep scratches?

Just curious if I am doing something wrong here. I love the way PG leaves a really nice smooth finish for polishing and finishing and like to continue using it. One thing though, it gets pretty hot where I am. I mean day temperature is at least 30C.

Thank you in advance for all the tips.
 
PG is fairly agressive, when I use it I brush the pad clean or wash it out every couple of panels. That may help you out :dunno
I always follow up PG with another polish so any residue would be removed by that anyway.
 
wifehatescar & Ed Hartman: Thanks for the tips. Another problem I ran into with PG is that since the compound dries up quite fast I end up having to do at least three polishes to completely remove deep scratch and 2000 grit sand marks. I was hoping one would just do the trick. A friend of mine said one polish was enough with Meguiar's #85 Power Cut Compound.

Does anyone know whether PG has more or less cutting power than Meguiar's #85 Diamond Cut Compound?

Thanks.
 
PG is designed to remove 1k grit sanding marks, so there is defintely
something amiss. What kind of pad are you using?
 
What machine are you using? A Porter Cable? I use a Porter Cable and when it comes to removing some defects it can take a while to achieve the desired result. Removing some scratches and such can be time consuming. When I do say a quarter panel and wipe it off, sometimes you have to go back and do it again and maybe again. As far as one step polish, I think it depends on the color of the casr. For example, I have a black conversion van. I started witrh Menzerna IP, the nwent to FP2 AND FINISHED with a sealant. I think on dark colors its a minimum 2 step polish (agressive, finish polish) then wax or sealant. Ive seen black cars done started with PG, then IP then FP2 tehn a sealant. Looked awesome. Lots of work.
 
usdm: I used a clean LC yellow pad and LC orange pad with PG for serious marks, scratches and 1500 and 2000 grit sand mark. The issue I am seeing is the compound broke down much earler than expected and required constant misting. Otherwise, it would residue that is hard to buff off. Is that normal?

Ed Hartman: I used a Makita circular polisher with 1300rpm. My final result with Menzerna PG looks great and much better than with Meguiar's #85 but it took longer. Thanks.
 
Moe said:
usdm: I used a clean LC yellow pad and LC orange pad with PG for serious marks, scratches and 1500 and 2000 grit sand mark. The issue I am seeing is the compound broke down much earler than expected and required constant misting. Otherwise, it would residue that is hard to buff off. Is that normal?

Interesting.. What I experience with PG may be the similar, but I'm not sure.

I usually use it with a wool pad for heavy oxidation, and either a black edge
pad or yellow edge pad for removing sanding marks. When I use the wool, I
do get swirling that has tothen be followed up with IP and or FPII. When I
use the black pad, swirls are kept to a minimum, but I do find a lot of
hazing. When I use the yellow pad, I also get hazing, but it's not as severe.
I have also found positive results when using it with a green Edge pad,
but I don't do it often since most of the work involves fresh paint
repair and wet sanding. I only risk the PG with a green pad, if the paint
is factory, cured, or slightly weathered older paint, and I need more omph
than IP will offer.

First, I prime the pad with some FI or some water. Then, I apply a 6' line
of PG over the area, pick up the product with the machine set at 600rpm,
and do a very quick smearing of product over 2x2 area to be worked.
I usually run the compound at about 1k-1200, and apply a little pressure on
the machine to do the work. I rarely run at any higher speed when using
compounds, and I also make slow even passes. I just make passes until I
can only see a slight wet haze, then I let off and let the weight of the
machine take over for the final few passes. I run until I can no longer
see any more of the product, or I start to see some dusting. I know there
are some that do not continue to make passes up to the point of dusting,
but that's just one of the ways i do it.

After that, I wipe off with either some Final Inspection or HT Prep Wash,
and look over the section to see if I need to do another pass. The
whitishness when I do see it, is usually from marring and leftover residue.
The residue pretty much comes off complete after the wipedown, but
some of the marring it's still there (this condition is also seen when I
have used PI II FCRC, and MG). I only concern myself with the hazing on
dark colors since that is where I will see most of the marring if any.

When doing light colors, I follow up with IP via a polish pad @ 1200, and for
darks, I add FPII @ 1300-1500, and use the weight of the machine only. For
me, I find that FPII seems to leave the most problematic residue behind. But
as I am always wiping down after a pass, it does not bother me as much.

Two folks that might have some more insight on this is GSRstilze, or DeanSki.
 
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