PwS V3 some more info and pics

I placed my order early Thursday morning and the package was sitting on my doorstep my Saturday afternoon, gotta love Poorboys :)


So I had this long hairline scratch running down my trunk lid. I figured I would give the Polish with sealant a try on that scratch. I used the orange side of a Wolfgang Polish N' Wax applicator to apply the product. I worked the small area for about 3-4 minutes and the scratch did lighten up but wasnt fully removed.

But then when I examined the finish under the light I noticed I now had left small hairline swirls every where that I was polishing. I was able to take out some of the swirls with SSR1 and another wolgang polish n' wax applicator but there is still too many left that its bothering me.

I bought the car in July and my whole approach thus far is not to use any type of buffer/polisher on the paint even though I do own a PC7424. This was the first time I used a circular motion to apply a product on the paint, prior to tonight I was delicately wiping every square inch down with microfiber.

Now Im left with the decision wether to bust out my PC and see if I can get the rest of the swirls out with probably a medium cutting pad and SSR1? Or just deal with the small area of light swirls and dont risk leaving anymore in the paint :confused:

I should of just left the barely noticable hairline scratch alone :(
 
Did you use a less aggressive pad/applicator after the orange pad? I'm not familiar with the WG line of pads (hand or machine), but it may be that the orange side was a bit too aggressive. Also, did you ensure that you didn't go to a "dry buff" when applying the PwS? If a polish goes dry, there is no lubrication left, so you may be scuffing the paint a bit this way.
(Just throwing out suggestions. Got any pics?)
 
I guess I should also ask:how much pressure were you using? I've noticed that if I'm not careful, I can induce marring more easily rubbing by hand than via PC on my black paint, since there is more PSI via my fingertips than via the more widely spread out PC pad. Since that "awakening" I've tried to use thick applicators or at least use the palm of my hand rather than fingertips.

Actually, this should maybe be a new thread. :redface:
 
No pics yet.

I did apply it by hand, I think I may have applied too much pressure. Plus I used another orange pad with the SSR1 and I applied it by hand. I probably would of been better off with a medium cutting pad and the PC instead.
 
Just a comment about the PC and cutting pads.
1. Many people use the cutting pad/PC combination with good results.

2. Many people have had problems with the cutting pad/PC combination.

3. Almost all the problems with marring I remember reading about involved the use of a cutting pad. Something to think about??

4. It has not been a problem for me to prep my vehicles pretty well without owning a cutting pad. Any major flaws just take a little/lot longer with a polishing pad

5. IMO, It is also important to use products that the manufacturer says are for use with a DA. PwS would be one, so that's not your problem here.

6. Keep in mind, you don't "remove" a scratch. you lower the level of the paint around it. In other words, you "remove" some of your paint. Not necessarily a bad thing, but something to keep in mind.

Charles
 
How PwS V3 gave Nourah her groove back . . .

After driving the rental CR-V for a month, I decided this afternoon that I could not stand the swirls, hazing, marring & water spots any longer. I decided to give the PwS a try with the Edge 2K Orange (Light Cut) pad to see what improvement I could make before my knee & shoulder told me to stop.

First a few befores . . .

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The paint felt like sand paper & when wiped with a micro fiber, you could hear it catching on the fibers, so claying was definitely needed. I used lots of PB's S & W as lube, and an old clay bar that I had set aside for wheels. It is now so full of contaminants that it is in the trash!!

Then I hit it with the PwS on the orange pad, spread at 2 & bumped up to 5. I made lots of slow passes with moderate to heavy pressure. When I checked the hood, I couldn't believe the improvement. I had planned to step down to a polishing pad, but I was so pleased with these results that I listened to my knee & shoulder & called it a day.

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Thanks, Steve, I think you've got a winner here!! :bigups :yay :yay
 
I just did the same combo today (orange pad + PC) on my girlfriends red Corolla. She said the paint hasn't ever been that smooth. The removal of swirls is really good but I really like how you can polish an area out and then move right onto the next panel without wiping. Saves a bunch of time.
 
Nourah..you and Marj are the only two women I have ever known that will return their rental vehicles in better shape then when they picked them up:rofl
 
Norah, don't make it look too good. They may wonder what you did with their car :lol:

Very nice job :bigups
Let us know how it holds up to that AZ sun

"J"
 
I had an opportunity to try the PwS sample I got from the Christmas specials. I used it on a dark metallic grey Tahoe. Overall, I was quiet pleased. The Tahoe hadn't been washed, certainly not detail in over a year. PwS did a good job of removing micro-marring and very fine scratches. I couldn't get the cob-webbing and little thicker scratches out. I used a LC Orange pad. I was also quiet pleased with the little to no dusting that occurred. I also found the PwS to be very helpful in cleaning up the chrome trim and even cleaned up the black plastic trim around the SUV. Oh yeah, and it worked great on cleaning up the rims as well.
I used XMT conditioner to prep the pad throughout the polishing process, not sure yet if that worked for or against the polish.
 
jaybs95 said:
Norah, don't make it look too good. They may wonder what you did with their car :lol:

Very nice job :bigups
Let us know how it holds up to that AZ sun

"J"
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Thanks, they'll recognize it if they look at the roof ;)

I'm hoping not to have time to give it a long term test in the AZ sun - but I'm glad that I had the time to play with it yesterday :)
 
From my experiences, nope and nope.

On my Tacoma I used it by hand and by PC with a polishing pad and the very few swirls were still present. See below:
http://www.detailcity.org/forums/poorboysworld-com-sponsored-forum/20211-unofficial-pws-v3-review-input-thread.html
Even though the swirls were still there, it cleaned and sealed the paint.

Now used with a cutting pad and PC, it will begin to get rid of defects.

Because it is a non-abrasive product you'll need to bump up the cutting ability of your machine or pads to remove swirls.
 
budman3 said:
From my experiences, nope and nope.

On my Tacoma I used it by hand and by PC with a polishing pad and the very few swirls were still present. See below:
http://www.detailcity.org/forums/poorboysworld-com-sponsored-forum/20211-unofficial-pws-v3-review-input-thread.html
Even though the swirls were still there, it cleaned and sealed the paint.

Now used with a cutting pad and PC, it will begin to get rid of defects.

Because it is a non-abrasive product you'll need to bump up the cutting ability of your machine or pads to remove swirls.
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Ok, I understand the how-to. Then, it will be similar to ClearKote Vanilla Moose but without fillers.
Thanks !!
 
I'm mobile detailer and simply love PwS!

I use it on about 75% of the vehicles I do. The cleaning ability blows me away.

Thank you PB for such a great product!
 
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