PwS beta version...just some thoughts

cwcad

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Had a little time today to use a product that I used earlier in the spring on a Subaru Forrester. I was going to write a review on PwS using that vehicle but somehow I got way laid and never got to it. Had some time this very morning to work on the Black truck. It had been several weeks may be even a month since I had done anything to it other than the daily S&W wipe down and the use of a CCD.

In the environment that the truck sits in daily the wipe downs and CCD have taken a toll on the paint surface. I had holograms on the tonneau cover and scratches all over the vehicle. Admittedly these could only be seen in direct sunlight by a discerning eye. Most non detailers would consider the vehicle in terrific shape. Just not up to my standards.

I started out with another S&W wipe down using the new Detail City/Poorboy’s towels to get the surface clean. Did not use a clay bar(although it needed it) because I was interested to see how the product would work by setting a time limit of three minutes per panel of my truck. I used a PC, LC white 6 in. polishing pad, and Poorboy’s PwS beta version that Steve was nice enough to send to me since I whined a lot.

I split the truck into 18 different panels. Got an wind up egg timer and started the detail. I have never been one to rush a detail but have found from previous experience that I tend to take to much time. In the end it lowers my hourly rate of pay. Get stellar results but am interested I streamlining my process so as to keep what I consider a good hourly wage for the detail. I have a long weekend coming up and am in hopes of doing several details using this method during my time off.

With 18 panels already set up in my mind I knew that I would have 54 minutes of polishing ahead of me. I put a large amount of product on the pad to help prime it. Starting on the hood. I set the timer and went to work. It was a pleasant 66 degree’s outside with overcast skies in a gravel parking lot outside my hotel room. As I continued around the truck I put less and less product on the pad. At the end of nine panels I changed pads and started on the other half of the hood working my way towards the tailgate. It took 66 minutes to do the entire vehicle using the PC spreading the product on speed three and then turning up the PC to finish off each panel on speed six. I did not do the roof. I forgot the ladder at a friends house

I have to say that the PwS beta version that I have worked with little dusting. It was starting to dust after the ninth panel on each pad that I used. Product spread very easy with the PC and the result were very satisfying to me. It removed all the scratches that I had been noticing. Minor scratches to most non DC members but were really bothering me.

I am hoping to see at least a month of protection from this product. I am not sure how long it will last? It is going to be hard to not put anything else on it in the next month. Hopefully I will have more details coming up in the next few weeks. All with pictures. Inside a garage with lights. Since it was overcast today I only have *after* pictures and they are with rain drops because as soon as I finished it started to sprinkle. Most likely this will effect the durability as well. Without direct sunlight it would be hard to show the scratches and marring that I had seen earlier in the week. If the sun comes out later on today I will try to post pictures showing how marr free the surface actually is.... or isn't.... which ever is the case.

Just my thoughts on a product that I think has merit.

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Thanks for the wonderful write up.
The truck looks great as always :bigups

Have you (or anyone) heard anything about when the final product will be released??

"J"
 
The sun came out when I went shopping this afternoon. Took fifteen minutes and did a quick S&W wipedown. The truck really looks terrific in the sun. But when viewed at the proper angle this is what you see. I am sad. I thought that I had done a good job. Just was asking to much of a one step product I think. You decide......

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Steve this was version 2. I think you need to send me a paypal request for version three. I want this product to work. It does look good. As well as easy to use. It just does not have enough cut for me at this time. Is this asking to much for a one step???
 
cwcad said:
The sun came out when I went shopping this afternoon. Took fifteen minutes and did a quick S&W wipedown. The truck really looks terrific in the sun. But when viewed at the proper angle this is what you see. I am sad. I thought that I had done a good job. Just was asking to much of a one step product I think. You decide......

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Steve this was version 2. I think you need to send me a paypal request for version three. I want this product to work. It does look good. As well as easy to use. It just does not have enough cut for me at this time. Is this asking to much for a one step???

It probably is asking too much for total correction. A swirl remover is more than likely needed as a previous step for perfection. The next version will have about the same cut but be more shiny and slick.
 
Ya, I guess you are right.:mad: To bad though. This was my shortest detail on record.:D Less than two hours including set up and take down. Of course it was paint only. No wheels, wheel wells, interior, or engine compartment. Actually just what I am interested in. Shiney paint. PwS did do that though.

You say that the third version is going to be shinier and slicker, eh?:)
 
1st PWS was a promo, i didn't realize you had a 2nd promo,will #3
be the final product.

CWCAD the swirls are the price we pay to use QD'ers
 
joe.p said:
CWCAD the swirls are the price we pay to use QD'ers

You certainly are right there. I cuss myself out daily. Yet I do not stop QD'ing. If I could stand to let it be dirty for more than twelve hours. I could cut down my self induced swirls by 75%...... or more. It is the dust from the rock crusher and the truck traffic that goes past my truck when I park each day. I do not have that problem in Texas during the winter.
 
I have a black car and I am not a big QD'er. Know matter what I do I can't avoid minor swirls and webbing. I spent seven hours polishing my car in May and in my opinion it already needs polishing again. I just try to come to terms that I just can't avoid it, but I can hide it a little. The "rain everyday" season is here so I've been waxing weekly with NB. I try to give myself a couple of hours before the storms move in so I can enjoy the reward of busting my hump to get it clean before it rains.
This prototype seems to be one hell of a good polish for being able to do some minor swirl removing and sealing in one shot. A fantastic follow up polish. add some more of that "Poorboy's" shine. Untouchable!
If you have anything more than minor and you really should move the next step up with a designated SM. You won't be satisfied with the results of anything else.
 
Poorboy said:
was this version one or two? version three will be here by mid-week:D
Steve, how do (or can) you differentiate the versions (physical appearance)? What about performance differences?
 
Mr. Clean said:
Steve, how do (or can) you differentiate the versions (physical appearance)? What about performance differences?

first two have different colors and scents...first was was very glossy and slick but lacked a real polishing ability, the second version added more polishing ability but was a little less slick and shiny....version three (due in this week) is supposed to have to qualities of both 1&2..not sure what version 3 looks or smells like yet, I'm also being kept in the dark ;)
 
cwcad said:
I was going to write a review on PwS using that vehicle but somehow I got way laid and never got to it.

Sweet! Good for you. I've been trying to get that too, so it's been cutting into my detailing time as well. I'm awful.:howdy
 
I got soem from a pal and have no clue which version it is? Orange with an orange ice cream stype smell.
My question is, think this having the sealer in it, then top with EX be a perfect combo? Cure/wait time before using the EX?
 
CARTfan said:
Sweet! Good for you. I've been trying to get that too, so it's been cutting into my detailing time as well. I'm awful.:howdy

You are not awful....You are BAAAAAAAAAD!!! :D
 
it's get's slicker everyday untill the third day.. if you can keep it dry.. then you can top it..

That's version one..

(the best)

patrick
 
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