Pump up Sprayer/Foamer Question

We’ve got them at nearly every connection point (auto repair shop). I should probably know this, but it’s always been handled by maintenance/other people - what’s normal shop line pressure?

Off-topic: That compressor setup sounds like mine, great for use with a Lonn Cleaning Gun. Gee, is that psi considered high for a Shop? Mine`s right around there (a bit higher but doesn`t maintain it under full draw).

It all depends what you`re doing...it`s just that usually you maintain the receiver at high pressure for several reasons (capacitance and condensation) then you regulate down to a lower pressure for distribution, and then a lower pressure at the point-of-use--so maybe that 130 is already the secondary pressure. I would say that 60-100 is the "normal" industrial range in the secondary/distribution part of the system...part of the reason for that is to minimize leakage losses and consumption at things like blowguns if they aren`t regulated at the point-of-use.
 
Setec Astronomy- Well, in my shop it`s just a matter of what I`m doing, so things might not be done as in a "real" shop by a long shot. Interesting about the "normal shop pressure", which I assume has to go with air tools/etc. as much as anything (leaving paintwork out of it).
 
Hopefully I didn’t come across as trying to thieve your broken sprayers!! I just meant if you post up the bottle specs maybe we can source some replacements.

skibik- The bunch-of-pumps required is a big reason I’m trying to find out safe pressures. If you’ve got a low pressure pump/inflator, seems like being able to fast forward to pressurized sprayer sure would be nice.

Ill try and get a valve stem snapped in tomorrow and report back what 30 pumps of the sprayer I have equals for pressure.
Awww, heck no. I didn’t even think of that until I read this post. I’m sorry if it came across that way. I simply meant I’ll keep trying to acquire a bottle that these pumps will work on, they’re quite nice.
 
GearHead_1 - Flo Master bottle neck: 1 11/16" measured at the outside of the neck (not threads), 1/8" between the peaks of the threads. I`ll check the other bottle tomorrow.
Tell me what Flo Master bottle is. The only thing that comes to my mind is FlowMaster exhaust. ;)
 
GearHead_1 - Flo Master bottle neck: 1 11/16" measured at the outside of the neck (not threads), 1/8" between the peaks of the threads. I`ll check the other bottle tomorrow.
I just went out and measured one of these bottles. The neck measured between the threads 2.8”.
 
Setec Astronomy- Well, in my shop it`s just a matter of what I`m doing, so things might not be done as in a "real" shop by a long shot. Interesting about the "normal shop pressure", which I assume has to go with air tools/etc. as much as anything (leaving paintwork out of it).

I apologize for interjecting, I`m sure I just confused things, what you do in your personal shop, or even Oneheadlite in a decent-sized automotive shop, is pretty distant from the kind of plant-engineering stuff I dragged in here. Sorry.
 
Oneheadlite - I thought about the bicycle pump because of the long stroke and a lot of air is moved in a couple strokes. Can you post a pic of your sprayer with the stem. What size is the valve stem hole? I don`t use the my sprayer so I might as well modify it.
 
I have three Kwazar trigger sprayers. Two of them failed in no time at all. Too bad cuz they were nice when working.

I had a very similar experience with three of their pump up sprayers and I think 5 of their regular spray bottles. I won’t spend the money for them again. The chemical resistant bottles I got for about 1.97 from USP work much better.
 
I had a very similar experience with three [Kwazar] pump up sprayers and I think 5 of their regular spray bottles..

Huh,interesting, I`ll keep that in mind should mine (their regular sprayers) die. I`m not a big fan anyhow as they (unexpectedly) pinch my fingers and require a lot of [messing] around to avoid that compared to all my other ones.
 
Well, today during my lunch break I spent some more time with the sprayer.
The Flo Master sprayer has a different nozzle design than the sprayers I have at home (which match the videos I’ve seen online of people hacking cheap sprayers into foamers).
I spent some time digging through my box of spare small plastic caps trying to find something that would slip over the nozzle to add some scotch-brite style material to aerate the dispensed fluid as I saw in the videos. Not finding any caps I was willing to give up (I use them to cap off lines/etc during repairs), I remembered how at times the sprayer would foam just when the fluid level would get low and you were tipping the bottle around. The other part of the online how-to has you poke a small hole in the pickup tube.
So: Let’s try this. I used a pick and poked a hole in the pick up straw well above the fluid line. I took some old (emphasis on old) Zaino car wash that’s been hiding in my box, added an unscientific squeeze into the water in the sprayer, sealed it, and bumped it to 40psi.

Here’s the sprayer with fitting:
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And here’s the output after playing with the factory nozzle a little:
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Way better than I was expecting! At this point I’d feel comfortable actually flushing the sprayer out and trying it with some of my good chemicals.

Next thing on the experimentation to do list is to-
A: See how long it dispenses and how much coverage you get between recharges.
B: Try connecting my little cheapie tire inflator and see how annoying/effective that works. It’s a little cheapie Micro Start inflator that connects to their jump packs (or a cigarette lighter). If the bottle runs out of pressure crazy fast, I could use the little inflator and have the jump pack in my back pocket to power it (it’s one of the little jump packs, not huge ones!).
 
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