PSA : Washing your Towels in your laundry Washer

mobiledynamics

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I`ve been meaning to write this, as with my recent other thread on just emptying a QD bottle, there was ~stuff~ that was hidden from the naked eye.


What spurned this post was I was reading another thread on how fellow members do RWW/WW. I kinda chuckled and said my cajones was not large enough to do either method, just short of Emergency Bird Poop, and asked said users were they pre-rinsing before throwing them into the laundry washer and or just straight in.

This applies to both front loaders and top loaders. Front loaders uses MUCH less water than top loaders but the basic principles apply. BTW, if you have a front loader, keep the front door ajar to let air cycle trough your machine so it can dry.

In your laundry washer, you have a inner drum and a outer drum.
The inner drum is the drum you see - that holds the contents of what you are washing.
The outer drum is the part that envelopes the inner drum that holds the liquids.

It`s important to either launder your clothes/items in Hot Water at Times.
Some washers have sanitize features, and some washers have extra hot water options as well.
Use them if you have them every so often. Said washers may actually have a onboard heater, which is important, to keep the water temp hot throughout the water cycle.

Take some liquid softener and rub it between your fingers.
Try just rinsing your hand clean with just water. (usually liquid softener is dispensed on the final rinse cycle).
Same goes for soap, scum, and body oils...


What is happening is the a BIO FILM of soap, scum, mold , etc - grows inside and lines the inside portion of the outer drum. You won`t see it unless either you peel your gasket back and there is a very small gap between the inner/outer drum, in which you might be able to inspect it by shining a very focused light and looking for it..
This in itself is not a true gauge, as generally there is a lip in the drum, and you can probably only see the 1st couple inches of the drum.

For those doing RW/WW and not prerinsing with something like APC outside separate of the washer , I`d be concerned that between the underlying properties of encapsulating dirt, the affinity of this latching onto your washing machine drum, and the long term or short term effects of this and households not using enough HOT water to really clean your washing machine out...well, you get my point.

I could probably go another 10 more paragraphs on this topic, but hopefully if this was not on your radar, I hope it is now.
 
mobiledynamics- Good post.

I`m as conscientious about washing machine stuff as, well...as you are about those spray bottles we`ve been discussing :D

I generally use the shop washing machine for Detailing textiles and other nasty stuff, my HE frontloader just doesn`t handle such jobs well. But I do sometimes use its Sanitize Cycle as a sort of "super rinse", after thoroughly cleaning out the softener dispenser of course ;)

Oh, and FWIW, I use Ultra Downy fabric softener (in moderation) on my cotton towels and have noticed *ZERO* downside. Can`t say the same for other fabric softeners though. I know that fabric softeners in general are considered the Devil by most detailers, but I did want to mention the Downy for those who find they need such stuff.
 
Yeah, the point about the FS was just moreso about that fact that it doesn`t really cleanly rise out of the machine to some degree , since it`s the last cycle when it`s dispensed, and generally with most washing machines....the rinse cycles are cold water...

I suppose if one was lucky enough had a dedicated washing machine in the shop, washing RW/WW towels might not even be on ones radar ;-/

This is the crap that you don`t see that you might be washing your clothes in, if one is not washing ones machine in Hot Water to get rid of the bio-film, buildup that occurs. Sadly, I do think alot of the public are washing their clothes with dirty laundry tubs, cause they just don`t know better.....on proper washing machine maintenance.

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mobiledynamics- That pic is a good visual aid, oughta get the point across quite clearly! I bet you`re right, IMO most people undoubtedly have zero clue about what the innards of their washing machines look like.

And yeah, as washers get more, uhm...."advanced" (scare-quotes intentional) it`s harder to manually control stuff including the rinse temp.

I suppose I *am* spoiled with the shop washer, but I find an old-style agitator-type washing machine so necessary that I`d have two washers no matter what anyhow. The fancy/expensive/eco-friendly new one simply doesn`t get really dirty stuff clean :( I do like that Sanitary Cycle though, it sure does get nice and hot.
 
I put one gallon fill large load with hot water.

Good idea.

I was told by an appliance repairman that Woolite keeps a washer cleaner than most detergents. He said he has look at a couple and the woolite washers were noticeably cleaner. My wife and I have used fragrance free detergent for the last few years. I still use woolite for linens and kitchen towels.

FYI, I can`t stand the smell of clothes that have any strong fragrance. It some times takes 3-4 washes to remove the residual fragrances from out clothes if they get washed with the super frangrancy stuff
 
While on this subject of washing machines and clothes detergents, does anyone remember Charlie`s Soap | Live Green. Deep Clean.??
This used to be a forum-favorite for washing cotton towels, cloths and microfibers.

I think it`s the washing soda in it that is the "chemical" that cleans so well (similar to 20-Mule Team Borax). In fact, it was suggested that you wash with rags/old towels and this detergent for the first time because it cleans so well that the built-up gunk from other detergents will become dislodged in your washing machine. This essential step will prevent this from getting on good clothes during the initial wash cycle.

I would think that tri-sodium phosphate (TSP) would do the same thing, but it`s illegal to use it in clothes washing in all municipalities that have water (sewer) treatment plants, having phosphates been banned from detergents in the 70`s by the EPA due to water pollution and the algae bloom they caused in lakes and streams (and still cause today from fertilizer run-off). TSP is still available as a cleaning agent at many hardware stores to the general public if you ask for it. A soap store here in my area has to label it as "a water conditioner" to "legally" sell it to the public. How the buyer uses it is their responsibility... but that`s a whole different thread topic.
 
Personally, I would not be using a gallon of vinegar on a load. Not sure how it plays long term with the rubber components it touches.

Constant Hot Washes IMO are key to a clean free ~inner drum~
Just because you don`t see it....literally, you don`t know if you have the bio film as in the pic.

The OP was more to advocate for making sure all of ya`ll was aware what happens in a washer...

And what prompted this was reading how some RW/WW users - just chuck them straight into their washer without even a pre-rinse.
All this talk about encapsulating agents, etc. Eeks. What if those so call polymers latch onto the outer drum, just like body oils, fabric softners, etc. Add to that, some level of the dirt/debris you actually remove from the car via RWW/WW. Eeeks...
 
my washer has a clean cycle feature. i would wipe the inside down with apc then run it. it seems to put out hot water and spin it around then do clean cycle. takes up to 45 minutes to do it thing.
 
Couple of tips...as most front loaders are LOW LOW WATER....

Throw a couple of towels inside the unit when running hot/sanitize. More towels, = more water load. This allows the water to splash UP more to the sides/top of a front loader.

You can also pour hot water down - depending on your unit, down the detergent dispensing drawer. I do this when I run a sanitize, and fill it till I hear the overflow pump kick in. So basically fill water higher than the ~energy savings~ water level, until the overflow pump triggers. Just do this with a certain balance....as the bearings on these machines, etc are designed for a certain weight/volume...
 
I had this problem when I washed my wheels off detailing towels in my washing machine. It left a visible layer in the first drum.

Needless to say my wife was not happy so I took it apart to clean it but the outer drum was just so nasty that I went out and picked up another washer.

I cleaned the old one as best as I could and still use it for detailing towels (only).
 
Reading this thread prompted me to do a tub clean cycle yesterday. Thanks.


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I had this problem when I washed my wheels off detailing towels in my washing machine. It left a visible layer in the first drum.

Needless to say my wife was not happy so I took it apart to clean it but the outer drum was just so nasty that I went out and picked up another washer.

I cleaned the old one as best as I could and still use it for detailing towels (only).

4u2NV. This is a perfect case in point ! I don`t think it was your wheel off towels that made the unit so dirty.....it was accumulation of buildup.....and not enough Hot Water Washes in between to clean it up. Imagine all this time you was washing your clothes with all that stuff on the outer drum.

The problem is, once you get a certain level of buildup, no matter how many chemicals you throw at it with Hot Washes, that black gunk ain`t coming out, unless it`s mechanically removed. Sort of like how one can pressure wash a dirty car for days, but the traffic film won`t come off unless Mechanically removed..

Removing for access/cleaning the outer drum is not for the faint of heart....depending on the machine and what you might need to break/replace as well during disassembly/reassembly.

So for those still reading this thread, Hot Washes a Plenty. Run a Sanitize once every 2-4 weeks.
 
I run a tub cleaning cycle with a Tide product that is made to clean front loaders about every 2 months to try to keep my machine clean. Is it doing it? Who knows. I`m also one of those guys that don`t like fragrances/perfumes in my clothes. I`ve been using Tide Free for as long as I can remember. My wife washes her and my sons clothes with the smelly stuff. To each their own. Good thread, keep those machines clean. I bought the most expensive LG machines on the market and I don`t feel like replacing them for a very long time.
 
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looked into getting this unit a while back but didn`t have space for it. pretty neat if you got the space and didn`t want to use your clothing washer/dryer
 
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