Please advise! swirls/haziness on black, details inside.

smartamar11

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Hi guys,

The car is a 1991 Jetta with black paint. It has a single stage paint job. The paint was in bad condition with swirls etc, (I am using a PC DA)



So I used M105 and a yellow uber pad (agressive) which gave me



50/50 by smartamar11, on Flickr





I then tried to go over it with M205 and a green uber pad (polishing, 2nd softest). but then something very wierd happened. I only noticed it on the trunk, the rest of the garage was darker and the sun was going down which was the only was I had been able to see it in the first place. there was a sort of haziness and very wierd faint scratches running the length of the trunk. It didn't look natural at all.



I tried to take some pictures but it was very hard to get. Please help if you have any advice.





If you look in the camera flash you can see scratches



wierd haziness by smartamar11, on Flickr





Some more scratches



wierd haziness by smartamar11, on Flickr



this is the haziness (looks almost like hologramming)



wierd haziness by smartamar11, on Flickr





wierd haziness by smartamar11, on Flickr



I tried 205 with a softer pad, 205 on a finishing pad. went back to 105 on a yellow. Nothing changed. I am going to go back tomorrow and try again. but yeah
 
Sometimes a certain polish just doesn't react well with a particular paint. I recently had a problem on a black '93 ZR-1 using Menz 85rd. Thought it could be environmental, but when I went back to finish I still couldn't get the result I wanted with that polish. I had to change my plan of attack.



Do you have another finishing polish available? Since 205 is a non-diminishing polish it may not be finishing down fine enough for you. Being a single stage paint, it could need more than just polishing. It may need to be nourished. I don't have a ton of experience with single stage paint. I'm sure you will get more detailed advice from those with more experience with it.
 
Thank you.

Yes tomorrow is just to clean etc, make sure there's no polish left. I am planning to get 85rd actually to see if that'll help at all unless people have other suggestions
 
85rd has worked well for me until recently with the Black ZR-1 and is my go-to finishing polish, especially on black paint. Po87 or Po106 also finish very well on black and might be good options if the 85rd doesn't give you the result you want.
 
smartamar11 said:
...[using M205].. something very wierd happened. I only noticed it on the trunk, the rest of the garage was darker and the sun was going down which was the only was I had been able to see it in the first place. there was a sort of haziness and very wierd faint scratches running the length of the trunk....



The new scratches kinda make me wonder (contamination? Clumps of polish? :nixweiss ) but the "holograms" sound like the pseudo-holograms I often get from the M205's oils. Those oils can be an incredible PIA to remove too, IPA often doesn't do it for me.
 
That is very weird indeed. Are your pads in good shape and nice and clean? What other polishes do you have that have a lighter cut than 205?
 
Pads are in good shape. I even used some new pads since i thought tthat may have been the problem. Tried softer and finally finishing pads too.

I ordered po85. should have that by this weekend. I used QD and IPA a few times etc, was able to get some of the hologramming-ness better. The scratches still confuse m ethough, they look un-natural.
 
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