Petroleum Distallate Products: Who Has 'Em ?

HondaMan

HondaMan

2004 Civic EX magnesium
What products that we talk about here have or do NOT have PD's? I used 1Z Eisensta Glanz Wax and it clearly says "contains petroleum distallates" and it smells and pours like it has PD's, too.

Someone told me Zaino has minute quantities of PD in it but I'm not sure if that's listed on the bottle(s) -- have never used Zaino.

Do Poorboys, Four Star, or Klasse products have PD's in them??
 
I don't know why everybody has to get their panties in a twist about petroleum distalates. They aren't all bad. If they were going to eat your tires then why would they allow it to be in tire sprays? Obviously they aren't going to wreck anything if they are allowed to be used as ingredients. I'm sure if the concentration was high enough then I am sure it would do damage. I doubt that a company like Zaino or Pinnacle or even Eagle One or Turtle Wax is going to use a high enough level that it would do damage. The modern formulations have to be safe or else they would never be able to be produced.
 
I agree, Fuzz, I'm just curious 'cause I got asked this elsewhere on another forum. Like I said, the 1Z Glanz clearly said on the bottle "contains PD's" -- I just want to know if these other items we always discuss, which DON'T say they contain it, might still have it, just in minute or derivative form.

Maybe Poorboy / Steve can answer this since he makes the stuff. Poorboy, do resin/acrylic/polymer products have to contain PD's -- yes or no? Maybe Dwayne @ PAC can answer for Four Star, too.

Thanks.
 
Were concerned about that here in Ca, due to VOC reg's imposed in Jan 05. Curious as to who will be changing formulations next yr.....I know Megs and Mothers are tweaking some products. What a shame, i mean its all for the good, but maybe they should start worrying about gross polluters like buses and diesels......I think everything I own smells of PD's, some very small, and some rather pungent.....That would be Blackfire, Platinum, Poorboys, 3M, Meg's, S100, to name a few...
 
The Fuzz said:
I don't know why everybody has to get their panties in a twist about petroleum distalates. They aren't all bad. If they were going to eat your tires then why would they allow it to be in tire sprays? Obviously they aren't going to wreck anything if they are allowed to be used as ingredients. I'm sure if the concentration was high enough then I am sure it would do damage. I doubt that a company like Zaino or Pinnacle or even Eagle One or Turtle Wax is going to use a high enough level that it would do damage. The modern formulations have to be safe or else they would never be able to be produced.
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I'm not so sure about that. Here's an article I copied from over at. http://www.autoint.com/magazine/change_with_times2.html

Petroleum/silicone dressings are not approved and are not to be used anywhere on a vehicle, inside or outside. All of the Big Three automakers have issued technical bulletins on this subject. Detailers should only use a water-borne polydimethal siloxane dressing.
Do not create heat when buffing any O.E.M. automotive paint applied since the late 1980s. The maximum temperature the paint surface may attain when buffing is 115° F.
Do not remove more than .3 MIL (3/10 of a mil) of clearcoat when buffing.
Do not over soak carpets or seats when cleaning and do not use "hot" or high-caustic cleaners. These cleaners remove the flame retardant and create mold and mildew in the fabric and foam.

This article published in American Clean Car, August, 1999

It's also a well known fact that PD will degrade many things. The Mfgs. count on the fact that you will not have whatever it is you're using their products on long enough to notice or figure it out. Somebody will live with it.

But hey, most people use toothpaste, anti-pers, hair care and just about everything else with anti-freeze in it, so I guess it's no big deal. :brick
 
(1) So we don't know if PB, Klasse, or Four Star stuff has PD's in them?

(2) We can't assume that if a product has PD's in it that it has to state it on the can/bottle (my 1Z Glanz Wax clearly states "has petroleum distallates").
 
HondaMan said:
(1) So we don't know if PB, Klasse, or Four Star stuff has PD's in them?

(2) We can't assume that if a product has PD's in it that it has to state it on the can/bottle (my 1Z Glanz Wax clearly states "has petroleum distallates").
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Klasse clearly states on the very last line of the bottle label that it does indeed contain PD. So do most of the other stuff I have. I'd be surprised if there is very much out there that does not have PD in them. Sometimes it's disguised with other less used terms, mineral spirits, etc. I guess you find one that at least does not reek of PD and then just live with it.
 
sgo said:
I'm not so sure about that. Here's an article I copied from over at. http://www.autoint.com/magazine/change_with_times2.html

Petroleum/silicone dressings are not approved and are not to be used anywhere on a vehicle, inside or outside. All of the Big Three automakers have issued technical bulletins on this subject. Detailers should only use a water-borne polydimethal siloxane dressing.
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FYI: The water based poly dimethal siloxane based dressings look like milky water and include products like BNB, Zaino Z16, Vinylex and 303.
 
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