Pc7424

Nick, there's info on the page in the link you provided that describes what each pad is used for. The gray and the blue foam pads are pretty much the same. The white is a very light polishing pad, and the orange is a light cutting pad. The polishing and cutting pads actually have "bite" to them; they, along with your polish, do abrasive cutting.



The 6.5" pads included in that kit are considered very large to use with a PC. About the only polishes that will *really* work well with a PC and those big pads are M105 and M205.



In order to get good results with other polishes, you'll need smaller (like 4.5") pads.



Edit: Just MO, but if I were going to get a pc in a kit, I'd get either Optimum Porter Cable 7424 Kit Remove swirl marks and paint flaws or Menzerna kit, 5.5 lake country pads, porter cable menzerna kit, ceramic clear polishing kit, Mercedes polishing kit



But really, I'd stay away from the kits, and get:



A PC



A 3.5" and 5" backing plates



4 4" Orange LC foam pads



4 4" White LC foam pads



4 4" blue/grey/black/or red (they are all pretty much the same)



M105



M205
 
I already ordered it about 2 hours ago.



Is a small pad better because it can get into smaller areas?



Is that sufficient to learn on?
 
Even with M105 the large pads simply don't do the work for me via PC :nixweiss



Nick1214- The PC wasn't designed to be used as a polisher, it was configured to work as a sander spinning a single sheet of sandpaper. The big heavy pads (wet with product) are just more than it can handle; when you apply pressure it overloads the PC's ability and causes it to merely "jiggle" instead of doing both of its two motions (you overcome its ability to rotate the pad).



Plus, the effort is being distributed over too large an area.



With 4" pads you can apply pressure without stopping the spinning and the work that's being done can be quite impressive.



I'm always harping about those "kits". They always seem to come with big pads, which people find ineffective. IMO some vendor oughta just come right out and say that it's not the optimal PC-polishing setup and sell a kit with 4" pads for correction and larger pads for (only) jobs that don't require aggressive work.
 
Nick1214 said:
I already ordered it about 2 hours ago.

Is a small pad better because it can get into smaller areas?



Is that sufficient to learn on?
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I bet that if you called them tomorrow morning you could change your order.
 
Can someone provide me a link to the pads I should be buying.



I think I have the decided on the 7424 already.
 
wascallyrabbit said:
that's the stuff i use. makes pad cleaning easy. have you tried it in the universal pad washer system yet?
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No, but I've been drooling over that pad washer for a long time. Is it Father's Day yet??? :D
 
Accumulator said:
Even with M105 the large pads simply don't do the work for me via PC :nixweiss



Nick1214- The PC wasn't designed to be used as a polisher, it was configured to work as a sander spinning a single sheet of sandpaper. The big heavy pads (wet with product) are just more than it can handle; when you apply pressure it overloads the PC's ability and causes it to merely "jiggle" instead of doing both of its two motions (you overcome its ability to rotate the pad).



Plus, the effort is being distributed over too large an area.



With 4" pads you can apply pressure without stopping the spinning and the work that's being done can be quite impressive.



I'm always harping about those "kits". They always seem to come with big pads, which people find ineffective. IMO some vendor oughta just come right out and say that it's not the optimal PC-polishing setup and sell a kit with 4" pads for correction and larger pads for (only) jobs that don't require aggressive work.
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Whats the best size backing plate to use with the 4" pads? I have one of those kits with the 5" plates and have been using the 6.5" Lake Country CCS pads but as you said the PC7424 doesn't seem to be able to handle it and does stop spinning with moderate pressure. I am interested to see if there is any difference in the final outcome with 4" pads. By the way, the products I have been using with 7424 are Z-PC and Z-AIO and I also used it for Z-2 and Z-5 the last couple of coats I did.
 
i agree with what's already been said. I bought a "kit" that included the 7424, 6.5" pads and PB products. i wasn't able to achieve much if any correction with them, though it was my first time. i'm planning on picking up the 4.5" pads and 105.
 
muscle96ss said:
Whats the best size backing plate to use with the 4" pads?
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I have two (and no, I can't remember where I got 'em, sorry...). One is about 3.5" and it's the best size. The other is about 2.75" and while it's great for 3.5" PFW pads, I have to be a little careful with 4" ones lest it do the "cookie cutter" thing to them. Not a *big* deal though and that's the plate that's currently on my "small pad dedicated" PC.
 
you using to much product if its gumming up. it makes sense to stay with on company's pads so that all the colors mean the performance level. example a black edge pad may not be the same as a black lake county. you'll need to compare the what you have in mind. if you've use the uber and like them there is no real reason to change to lake county pads. trying something else is not alway bad either.
 
wascallyrabbit said:
you using to much product if its gumming up. it makes sense to stay with on company's pads so that all the colors mean the performance level. example a black edge pad may not be the same as a black lake county. you'll need to compare the what you have in mind. if you've use the uber and like them there is no real reason to change to lake county pads. trying something else is not alway bad either.
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K thanks,, that answerd three Q's of mine. So far i like the uber never tryed anything else(new to this)but they seem like a good pad so far,holding up well.
 
Great info here..Thanks...a question: Autogeek suggests a 2 3/4" backing plate for the low profile 4" pads. Any negative to this? Could I use it for all 4" pads eithout issues?
 
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