thanks for the replies guys, i actually practiced a little on my car but i couldnt get the swirls out even though i was shining like crazy afterwards. i did burn the paint on the washer nozzles but i can go to the dealer and get another set for like $20.but it svcared me a little afterwards. my car is black onyx and you know what that means. im need to find a good detailer in the city to do the initial work until i get good enough to do it myself. arethere any classes that i can take?